Cerez

Dark Forces is Doom with Star Wars paint and the ability to look up and down.

Doesn't make it a bad game, though. You just can't call it innovative and groundbreaking. It really wasn't.

Fair enough.

This wasn't an attack on fan films (that are made as such), or their creators. I was talking about mainstream, official Star Wars films. But you do have a good chance of getting it right two hundred times better than these creators if you induce a feeling in your audience, and manage to capture them (emotionally involve them) in the story. With all these crappy official movies coming out, the chance is big for a great fan film to shine its light now.

I know what you speak about, but as artist i think it will be easier to share when it's done, not with words here..because with every day I work on it and on the music projects I understand the other side of view from behind the camera to the moment when u have to sell it to someone else and he might take it or not, but if he does it goes in other directions. Long words anyway I got your point and will be he happy to share in near future. But I personally have something special with Rogue...

This type of discussion is really more suited for a full-fledged thread, not for a status post.

My number one problem with Rogue One is this: why should I care what happens in the story, and about any of the characters featured there? What makes them so interesting? That they are no-one? That we don't even know who they are? That they are powerless rogues/soldiers (who happen to have incredible, almost superhuman accuracy and skills)? That their individual motivations are as vague and unfathomable as possible?

Take Jyn, the lead hero, for example. Who is she?! A rogue? A thief? An assassin? She lost her father when she was very young, okay. What happened after that? How did she grow up? Does knowledge of her father mean anything to her now, and if so, what? What is her past? What are her skills and where to they come from? We are not given insight to any of these details. We are only given the bare minimum that keeps the story from falling apart. And we're talking about the main character h...

here!!! And I don't even want to mention some of the other, supporting characters in the story. Who are they, where do they come from, why are they along for the ride, ready to sacrifice everything? Why do they even care for and trust Jyn? What reason do they have to do that? Or to sacrifice their lives for the rebellion. We're not given any of this background in the story.

Yup. And I also found the Rey's father:

"Have you seen a little girl? Short, white. Black hair?"

Her hair is brown though.

Let's say she dyed them.)

Agreed!

Sounds good coming from George Lucas' daughter (who wrote some of the best story arcs for The Clone Wars).

Should've always stayed in the family.. Somehow. Even if George was more of a "backroom staff/personnel" type. But it shows that his family members are passionate about he's created and that needs to continue.

The Clone Wars - Season 2 Episode 5 - Landing at Point Rain

If Rogue One matches the hype, it may top that. Looks to be very 'real' and 'gritty' for its battle scenes.

It's a ginormous "if", in my opinion ^^

I look at what Disney had done with the Marvel franchise and especially recently Captain America Civil War which did amazing! But when it comes to solely Star Wars before Disney bought it there really is no difference it's just another company that I can think of that is owned by another company Ex: Pepsi Cola owning Quaker Oats.

So true. It's the quality of the individual content produced, not the company. The true world-building then happens in the minds of the fans, how we all piece it together, what we accept, and what we reject. Bruce Lee had a great quote that actually relates to that:

"Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own."

I've only done so to credit your research, and to thank you for the conversation we've had, as despite the accusations, I do appreciate it.

 

@Clan FJA So sorry... *blushes*

No sorry, it's funny. I wonder what is the limit of messages for a status ^^

Jeez, mine exploded too

It only showed up 30 status updates, so that may be the limit, considering it's now 51 updates and it was just a few.

They're just teasing us with obvious similarities pretty clearly lol. I don't think I could ever get drunk enough to believe none of hundreds of Disney's employees in SW area never heard of Jedi Knight series kek.

Bah, I still prefer no contaminations from the new Canon. New characters, so that the old ones can rest in peace, their legend untouched.

Be happy. At least they won't ruin Kyle & Jan.

...I'm sure the marketing guys at Disney would not miss that opportunity.

Exactly, and also seeing how popular it was after seeing Maul use it, it became just as common as a single bladed hilt in the KOTOR and SWTOR era. And then the Inquisitors in Rebels. I think it would be ample time to see it in another film, especially in a main character.

Great point about the Inquisitors using it in Rebels. I missed that. Knowing this, I think we can count on it.

 

The action/fight is also more dynamic and visually appealing with a staff.

Skyrim - It felt like more of a dating sim than an actual RPG.

Mass Effect 3 - For the obvious reason, and that it seemed more geared towards the multiplayer than your character's story. (the reason you went back and played the other 2)

Hitman: Absolution - Seemed like a total step back from Blood Money. (I'm hoping the new game will change that)

Hmm... I see your point. Although, writing for video game games has been overall in improvement over the last decade. Big studios are starting to realise that a good story can separate a good game from a bad one just as much as a good gameplay. I think JKA is actually one of the last examples where very little mind has been paid to the story/script. With sequels there is always the temptation to go for less effort, more jazz, and more money, but overall big bugdet (and indie) games are much m...

...more story-focused these days. Perhaps that's why we tend to pick out a bad story more easily.

YEAH! WB FTW!! (it's not sarcasm, I do love WB and am genuinely disappointed Lucas didn't sell out to them at least)

Stick with the Jedi Knight series (DF2 & MotS included), make your own stories in the Old/New Republic eras, and that's all I have to say about that.

Sure thing, Forrest. (Couldn't resist. )

Ahhh, that's making it sound sad... >.<'

 

Yeah... I don't know what will become of things, but I'm quite certain Star Wars is about to take a plunge into dark, murky, slimy waters... where the garbage tentacle monster lives. XD

And we thought much of the EU was bad... Wait till you see this onslaught of new Star Wars movies coming... Things are about to get nasty, and don't tell Luke, but I have a bad feeling about this.

Like... a *really* bad feeling... And it starts this December...

I now, right!

*changes avatar* There. The wedding's over. Now it's official.

Eh, watch out with that Blender. You know how it goes, Blenders and fur...

Old school ftw!

like a boss

I honestly think that some of the EU stories had great potential -- if only they would have been adapted into big-budget productions. The best of EU could make for one hell of a series of Star Wars films. Better than anything Disney can come up with now on the fly. Time and a process of selection helps to filter a good story from a bad one.

I'm just glad Rosh & Jaden are both not canon.

Why??? Our poor little Rosh, he deserves credit for his high quality nonsense. He's kept us entertained for years. He deserves some kind of award. XD

How are you running 3ds Max?

@Ping Mac OS X's UI Design used to be fab, and the early releases of Mac OS X were an attractive OS with some great, unique features.

 

@Ramikad *thumbs up* "Suffering" is the right word for it.

 

@Archangel35757 I'm not. I've switched to Blender. But you can run it using WINE (2008 and 2009 seem to work reasonably well): https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=343 (Or you can dual-boot with Windows, and run it natively.)

@Archangel35757 When I rigged Ahsoka using 3DS Max, I was using my Mac, and emulating a Windows XP environment with VirtualBox. When I moved to Debian, I just took the VirtualBox file with me, and now I can run the same environment on the Linux version of VirtualBox. I haven't lost anything in this regard. Running Windows (or any other OS) in an emulated environment is useful if you need a specific setup for a project. It keeps your main desktop/OS clean for your main workflow.

Needs some Inigo Montoya style fencing.

"My name is inigo Montoya you killed my father prepare to die."

Needs JKA style fencing. XD

I'm glad clone wars was put into place. It added a much needed story between 2 and 3.

I agree to a hundred percent!

 

I think Clone Wars has a better story than the first, second and even the third movie. It binds it all, peneltrates it all and combines it into one big epic piece of epicness. I heavily recommend it, as Cerez does

haha, "penetrate"

 

I've been a fan since the original trilogy, and I agree that Clone Wars series (old and new) was integral to 2 & 3, as both only tell the beginning and the end of the Clone Wars itself. It also, I think, opened up a new world of possibilities with old/new planets, heroes/villains, etc etc. , so I'm a fan of the series myself.

I would say, that what happened in Season 5 finale (my favorite) in no way neglects TFA and vice versa.

Seeing as the other two episodes have yet to be released, and due to the fact that I don't watch much on TV anymore, I really don't have an answer to that. :/

Hahaha! An honest answer is a good answer.

 

Saw it in the cinemas. Didn't think much of it. I didn't go in with high expectations, and the movie didn't disappoint, but didn't thrill either. I have concerns as to how the story will further develop in the sequels, and serious doubts that it will top The Clone Wars experience. The characters were more thought out than in the prequel movies, though, so that's a plus.