character HUMANOID SKEL PLAYER: Kyle Katarn

[Tempust85]

Started working on a 3.0 version of my DF2 Kyle:

 

http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/1918/k8rx.png

 

Now what is wrong with his head? I can't seem to get it to look like Jason Court for some reason.

[katanamaru]

I can't help you with what looks off. It doesn't look like a direct match to Jason, but if I was playing the game with that and then a cutscene with Jason played I could tell that he was the same character.

 

I'm not big on the whole "must look like the actual person at all costs" style of modelling. It's fine when it works, but I'm a-ok with modellers taking some creative liberties.

 

Have you considered using your new skeleton with any of these new models you are doing? It might be a good way of advertising your skeleton to the community.

[Tempust85]

I'll be using the GLA I made new facial bones for in DF2 most definately.

[TheWhitePhoenix]

Most impressive, DT. Already looking better than your last version.

[Circa]

I'm not sure, but I think his jaw might be a little too slim?

 

[AshuraDX]

I'm not sure, but I think his jaw might be a little too slim?

 

this and I think the skin texture is too perfect/too smooth atm probably slightly wider cheekbones

I dunno you can tell it's Kyle though

 

May we see a side pic and maybe a 45° shot ?

the face might aswell be too round ,  mainly the jaw line

[Barricade24]

He honestly looks a bit like Sean Klitzner to me. At any rate, looking good. You really dish out models fast.

[Botdra]

Eyebrows look too steep inward to me, notice how the actor's eyebrows are more sloping to the side of the head instead of the middle. Part of it is that he's smiling but most of it is just natural, I'm guessing.

And yeah, the fact that he has a real beard and we have a skinned beard in JA is probably not helping the lower half of the face look like him. Could maybe make his chin bigger to make it look more like a fuller beard instead of paint, heh. The nose/cheeks area looks dead on to me! Hope that helps.

[Circa]

Just don't model on the mustache.

[Tempust85]

Thanks guys.

[MagSul]

Similar to what's been said, I think the problem presently is that his skin looks a little too plastic. The guy needs some imperfections!

[TheWhitePhoenix]

Just don't model on the mustache.

Agreed.

[Futuza]

Good model, but he's to young and kind looking.  Kyle is gruffer, add a bit of chuck norris to his face.

[OlgO]

I tried to make new Kyle model for our mod too, which would look more like Jason Court. For now I made this one (made new head, body is standard):

 

 

It would be interesting to watch your progress in making new model of Kyle Katarn. Good luck!

[Szico VII]

Barbie kyle Fresh outta high school? Looks too young and 'fresh'

[eezstreet]

Too much of his neck/shoulders is exposed, imo. That's what bothers me the most. And as everyone else has claimed, the eyebrows look strange, and something might be a bit off about the jawline but in general it's looking very good indeed.

[hhunter6]

I think it looks great. Its probably the narrow jaw line thats making the face look off but I have to agree that that isnt a big deal. Great job DT!

[Tempust85]

Thanks for all the suggestions guys, ill be referring to this thread when I get back to Kyle klitzner.

[KCDodger]

Do I spy a fresh Kyle model? I must say that's quite a rarity. Yeah, chin is a bit narrow and court has a more... Neutral, expression on his face. And what they said about the clothes. Other than that, it's looking great.

[Tempust85]

There will be a fresh Kyle model made when I've finished those levels.

[KCDodger]

Thank god. There's plenty of Kyle reskins but just not enough new Kyle models.

[Omicron]

*bumps*

any updates on this DT?

[Tempust85]

Not yet, this guy isn't a priority until some maps are made and we have a decent demo.

[TheWhitePhoenix]

Whatever you do with the model, DT, just DON'T model in the moustache.

[minilogoguy18]

^In case you haven't played DF2 Kyle doesn't have as much facial hair in that game to warrant modeling it on like in JK2/JA.