AshuraDX Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 As I had mentioned a while ago, I have begun to work on these guys.Here's a fancy shot of what I have so far, I'm going to redo most of the upper cuirass and the plating around the arms though - the way I built them right now will make some of the later detailing work rather difficult. Kualan, JAWSFreelao, Psyk0Sith and 13 others like this Link to comment
swegmaster Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 It looks really decent, the only issue is Prefx's Praetorian guard will be obsolete when this gets released General Howard likes this Link to comment
Langerd Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 As I had mentioned a while ago, I have begun to work on these guys.Here's a fancy shot of what I have so far, I'm going to redo most of the upper cuirass and the plating around the arms though - the way I built them right now will make some of the later detailing work rather difficult. That looks.. sweeeeet Delmi and PreFXDesigns like this Link to comment
D A R K S ! D E Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 It looks really decent, the only issue is Prefx's Praetorian guard will be obsolete when this gets releasedWell duh... Usually what occurs when a better model crops up. No offense to Prefx, but the jump in quality is clear to see, things like this should be seen as an upgrade. Pickles256 and PreFXDesigns like this Link to comment
Barricade24 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Looking good. I don't suppose you'll consider returning to the Clones after you finish this project up will you? plz... General Howard likes this Link to comment
Noodle Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Great! I'd love to see the way you work, it's great the level of detail something so simple can have. General Howard likes this Link to comment
Psyk0Sith Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Lookin' good, but needs more 45-ish degree bevels, i don't know why you keep doing them at 90 bro?! It looks really decent, the only issue is Prefx's Praetorian guard will be obsolete when this gets released Well at least it ain't a port, would suck even more wouldn't it? Noodle, General Howard, swegmaster and 1 other like this Link to comment
ShenLong Kazama Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Lookin' good, but needs more 45-ish degree bevels, i don't know why you keep doing them at 90 bro?! Well at least it ain't a port, would suck even more wouldn't it? The updated model is not a port though. Jeff likes this Link to comment
dark_apprentice Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Still don't understand how such detailed model, specifically with the armor of his arms is low poly that will work for both vanilla and OpenJK Link to comment
AshuraDX Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 Still don't understand how such detailed model, specifically with the armor of his arms is low poly that will work for both vanilla and OpenJKThis is the base model for the final game mesh. I will build a simple lowpoly mesh over the durface of this highpoly mesh, I will then use the High Poly Mesh as the source Mesh for my Baking to transfer all of the modeled detail on it into textured detail for the lowpoly. This will give me things like a proper normal map for rend2. General Howard likes this Link to comment
dark_apprentice Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 And also will not cause problems when adding the LODs I believe, now that is what I really appreciate when modeling something new, that is the magic that I wish I could've invest time to learn. Link to comment
PreFXDesigns Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I have no issue with this, I would love to see these when finished z3filus, Milamber and D A R K S ! D E like this Link to comment
Langerd Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Still don't understand how such detailed model, specifically with the armor of his arms is low poly that will work for both vanilla and OpenJKIt works like that - you make a very detauled model first you even make a folds on the clothes and wrinkles scars on the face skin etc. To latere make a overlay model with simpler shape - the shape that will be optimalized for the game. And after that you bake these detailed elemnts of the first model ON the second model - that is secret of the magic. You put detail on the simple shaped model. Later with some techniques you add normal maps - this allows textures to catch lights and shadows on the realistic way so in the end resaults - you have simple model for jk3 with the textures that simulates shadow and lightning on the texture's details. Watch AshuraDX clone trooper on this site https://sketchfab.com/models/7a6eadecc3cd49a2ae39154c42b5a68fAnd look closely on the models details. At first they were like sculpture but later - they were changed to be more a texture of the model. - check the wireframe for better looking Noodle and dark_apprentice like this Link to comment
Tompa9 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Astonishing work Ashura! That is the reason why Im planning to learn modelling from scratch some day! Maybe one day i will reach 20% of your skills Langerd and General Howard like this Link to comment
AshuraDX Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 It works like that - you make a very detauled model first you even make a folds on the clothes and wrinkles scars on the face skin etc. To latere make a overlay model with simpler shape - the shape that will be optimalized for the game. And after that you bake these detailed elemnts of the first model ON the second model - that is secret of the magic. You put detail on the simple shaped model. Later with some techniques you add normal maps - this allows textures to catch lights and shadows on the realistic way so in the end resaults - you have simple model for jk3 with the textures that simulates shadow and lightning on the texture's details. Watch AshuraDX clone trooper on this sitehttps://sketchfab.com/models/7a6eadecc3cd49a2ae39154c42b5a68fAnd look closely on the models details. At first they were like sculpture but later - they were changed to be more a texture of the model. - check the wireframe for better looking@@dark_apprentice to further illustrate what @@Langerd just said:This is the high Poly Mesh for my clone trooper: and this is the game ready mesh built around the highpoly: dark_apprentice, z3filus and General Howard like this Link to comment
Milamber Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Looking good ^^ PreFXDesigns likes this Link to comment
Jolly Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Still waiting on the day Ashura tackles the Phase 1 clone troopers Tompa9 and Langerd like this Link to comment
Langerd Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Still waiting on the day Ashura tackles the Phase 1 clone troopers i always liked phase 1 more. For what i remember only helmet was different. Right? Jolly likes this Link to comment
Ramikad Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 i always liked phase 1 more. For what i remember only helmet was different. Right? I seem to remember that there were also minor differences in the armor. Link to comment
AshuraDX Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 Still waiting on the day Ashura tackles the Phase 1 clone troopers I'll be honest with you guys - I'm not sure that that is ever going to happen. anyway, I did manage to do some mdoeling between rewriting portions of my map exporter code to accomodate the a better brush format. z3filus, Milamber, swegmaster and 3 others like this Link to comment
Daedra Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I'll be honest with you guys - I'm not sure that that is ever going to happen. anyway, I did manage to do some mdoeling between rewriting portions of my map exporter code to accomodate the a better brush format. Perfect armor plating for: z3filus likes this Link to comment
Langerd Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I'll be honest with you guys - I'm not sure that that is ever going to happen. anyway, I did manage to do some mdoeling between rewriting portions of my map exporter code to accomodate the a better brush format. Amazing! Their armors were different or they had different helmets only? I seem to remember that there were also minor differences in the armor.I looked on the pics on google and .. i only see difference in their helmets. Maybe shoulders are little changed but nothinh much. Link to comment
AshuraDX Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 Amazing! Their armors were different or they had different helmets only? are you talking about the Praetorians or the clones in this sentence? For the Phase 1 clones it's mostly the helemts and some very, very, very minor differences in the rest of the armor. Some of the hard creases on the surface of the armor follow a different path, the Troso armor has rounder pecs and the shoulder pads are a little different aswell. For the Praetorians it's just the helmet that varies between them Langerd likes this Link to comment
Ramikad Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I looked on the pics on google and .. i only see difference in their helmets. Maybe shoulders are little changed but nothinh much. The lower part connecting the main chestplate to the hips part seem to have more vertical details than the Phase 2 version, at least according to this image. The straps connecting the front and back parts of the chest armor are also a bit different, they look more "flexible" than just hard pieces. The armor parts covering the arms also seem longer, giving more cover. Overall, minor details. Langerd likes this Link to comment
Langerd Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 are you talking about the Praetorians or the clones in this sentence? For the Phase 1 clones it's mostly the helemts and some very, very, very minor differences in the rest of the armor. Some of the hard creases on the surface of the armor follow a different path, the Troso armor has rounder pecs and the shoulder pads are a little different aswell. For the Praetorians it's just the helmet that varies between themI meant a praetorian guards here. Sry for confusing post but thanks for both ansers btw The lower part connecting the main chestplate to the hips part seem to have more vertical details than the Phase 2 version, at least according to this image. The straps connecting the front and back parts of the chest armor are also a bit different, they look more "flexible" than just hard pieces. The armor parts covering the arms also seem longer, giving more cover. Overall, minor details.I see .. i didnt catched that . Interesting that Star Wars has always pay attention on details. Link to comment
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