Improving Knights of the Force

[JediBantha]

You're better off making your own mod from scratch, instead of "improving" upon a mod which had stolen content to begin with.

[Teancum]

What specifically do people want from this? It sounds like the UI/menu system is the big selling point. That can be recreated easily enough -- as far as function goes. It might have different graphics, but doing the rest isn't overly difficult.

[JediBantha]

If you're making your own mod, I'd suggest reworking the UI functions to make your maps & equipment (weapons, armor if you so choose) more customizable, since we have OpenJK.

[eezstreet]

I have the latest version of OpenJK and it doesn't do that for me. But I always keep a written list of npc codes from the ext_data.

Ah, okay. I have made a request to the maintainers for them to add this.

[Revan9190]

I was going to say something, but people beat me to it. It would be better to build from scratch. That way, you gain permissions as you go, and you'd have your own name. It seems that you want to expand on the 'ideas' Tim had (other people probably had the same idea, but who knows?) regarding the way the NPC's and Spawn menus worked. I don't see a problem with trying to recreate what the original intention was of that mod, but I think in the long run, a mod from scratch is less of a hassle than dealing with everything KotF had.

 

Zappa and I go way back with Jedi Outcast Movies and when we first heard of KotF, it looked 'cool' to me at the time - I was younger and more naive. Then Zappa came to me and told me it was all just a hoax and content was stolen. Tim was asking for money, IIRC.

 

If you would like me to, I can type a comprehensive list of things that I personally would love to see in a mod of this scope. Also, I wish I could have what some MBII devs have: That special demo playback thing that you can also stop time, reverse, and view freely the playing field. It might make machinimas for me and others exceptionally easier.

[minilogoguy18]

Just using the name "Knights of the Force" on your mod would be a bad idea considering what all is associated with it.

[swegmaster]

alright, if the mod does get improved or completely remade with a different name, then first there needs to be a complete list of all the stolen crap and content in kotf, with the names of the authors who made them

 

a lot of people may or may not know this, but there was a kotf 3.0 in development, with actual footage of it on gunyaz's youtube channel, I think I remember it fixed the menu fuckup bug with the character menu biographies that made you force quit via the console, as well as a new tfu push effect, which is the blue blur used in the tfu complete saga savepack mod for kotf

[TheWhitePhoenix]

alright, if the mod does get improved or completely remade with a different name, then first there needs to be a complete list of all the stolen crap and content in kotf, with the names of the authors who made them

A second thing would be is to get their actual permission. But I have a sinking feeling that some are not able to be contacted anymore....

[DTIII]

I'd be cool to see something like this happen, but yeah definitely create your own separate identity and don't associate yourself with it. If anything just take ideas and concepts from it such as including the entire saga and etc. 

[Smoo]

I have the latest version of OpenJK and it doesn't do that for me. But I always keep a written list of npc codes from the ext_data.

you can just type /dir ext_data/npcs I believe

[Ramikad]

you can just type /dir ext_data/npcs I believe

 

True, but those files may contain multiple NPCs with different names.