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@@Archangel35757 dotXSI 3.x dotXSI 5 dotXSI 6 Collada 1.4.1 DAE XML FBX DirectX ActorX Point Oven LWO ASE I also have a 3rd party plugin that does OBJ which is normally capped in Mod Tool. I'm not interested in conversion tools since I have that covered, I really want a true MD3 import/export option.

The Mod Tool version can only import .3DS files, not export them. I'd kill for some .MD3 support, I'm sure I can trade some services for someone around here who can make me a plugin. I'd almost be willing to pay if the price is right, I'm not rich but I also don't worry about money.

Jeez people, don't bring back dead topics from people who haven't been active in a long time. The model obviously isn't going to get released.

Sounds like you might wanna watch some basic videos on the software before asking export questions since textures are going to be required.

The source is now saved to my dropbox and my PC so it'll be safe and sound.

Thank you both, I have plans to release things outside unlike mods like MB2 unless it for whatever reason won't work outside of the mod like a character with a custom skeleton. Characters like Maw which won't work in base MP.

He seems like he only does kitbash's, we need people who can make something from nothing. I also need someone who is familiar with a much different type of workflow, someone who can make content that would be able to take advantage of rend2.

Read above, the mod is still being worked on, why would we want all the stuff out in the open? When I posted my message I meant for DT to PM me the link personally, didn't think he was going to openly post it. You don't see every mod for JA publicly releasing all the source files do you? Why should we be expected to?

It never drew interest before when it was released. I'd rather just do what we planed on originally and release a demo. Releasing everything now will just get people to try to do what's happened with these mods already and go in multiple directions by different people. Even though this MotS mod exists I still would hope for another in the future that isn't recycled content. I'd hate to see a version of DF2 that is the few levels and models we had while the rest is just recycled stuff. Besides, swagmaster has what he wanted, the only other thing that might be of interest to others is the improved lambda model which is just a static map object but I planned on making it into a vehicle to replace the base model and release it outside like the AT-ST.

Got it, @@DT85 could you remove the link? We still want to go forward with the mod, it's been slow but moving, would rather keep the content private until release.

Is there anyone still running a 32 bit OS??? Them RAM limitations doe...

The files weren't released because although DT85 left the mod he wanted it to go forward and it's not completely dead. Which reminds me, @@DT85, could you send me a link to the source? While the engine code is majorly out dated due to all the updates to OpenJK the artwork of course is very much relevant.

DT retired from the mod, hhunter6 has been inactive completely for a long time, the only person that for sure is still in is Ramikad. We had plans to do MotS if the JK mod ever finished, our direction is quite different though, we didn't want to recycle a bunch of existing content and just convert the levels over. We aimed to completely recreate everything only using the original games levels as 3d reference. We actually have a really good start, the first level is totally playable, the only thing missing from it is 8t88 which I have modeled but needs textures and animations. We mainly need mappers, skilled mappers, as for the other 2d/3d artist position I have a person in mind I wanna ask but only until we get the level design team bulked up.

@@Noodle http://www.moddb.com/downloads/autodesk-softimage-mod-tool-75 That is the version that the file can be opened with. It's the free "game modders" edition of the software but honestly it has almost everything the full version has, it just can't render out large image sizes (can't remember the limit) and it has limited file export formats. There are addons out there though for this version that let it import and export more file types, just check the link in my sig. If for whatever reason you have trouble downloading from there I kept the installer as a backup since this was the final version that they released for free and it's not on Autodesk's website anymore. I can just upload the installer somewhere, used to have it on filefront but well we all know what happened to that.

@@Jedi_Mediator Yeah, send it on over! Let me know if in the future you'll be able to contribute more, the level design is the bulk of the work.

Any software that can export animations will work, it would be a huge amount of work that no one is likely to take up. I thought about doing this at one point but while it wouldn't be hard it would take some time to complete and you couldn't use it in multiplayer. In MP all players must use the _humanoid.gla.

@@Jedi_Mediator do you have any plans on finishing it? Right now the mod is on hold until we can rebuild the team, so far the only people still in it are @@Ramikad and myself. I'd like to keep stuff exclusive at least until we can see where things are going. I only released the AT-ST separately because so many asked. I'd really like to attract attention to this mod once again since it's one of those mods that doesn't require huge changes to the game to make possible.

@@ShenLong Kazama unfortunately due to time I cannot make a tutorial like that, you could however watch an existing tutorial on youtube on the basics of Softimage then use my tutorial. If I made one for someone who had never opened the program once in their life the video would be litterally hours long. @@Noodle, lmk if you need any help.

Why in the world are you using Dragon? No one uses that anymore, all the 3d apps can properly export animations and Softimage ALWAYS could. Dragon is THE WORST way to go about making animations for this game, it always has been. [sharedmedia=tutorials:tutorials:90] There is a section in that tutorial that shows how to create character animations, I've made it so simple anyone can do it.

A .map exporter isn't enough for me to want to reinstall blender again. A software that requires immediate user revision to the UI to become usable is retarded. Yeah, it's free, open source so that means all the V neck wearing dorks love it but the UI is so bad that it keeps companies like Autodesk in business.

It's annoying too when you try to find someone who knows how to code to build some sort of .map exporter for a 3d package, tells you it's pointless and that there is nothing wrong with Radiant. >_< Radiant is terrible, most who use it don't see it cause they've usually have never used a large 3d modeling suite. It would be so much easier to do it the way the Pandemic editor does it, model everything in Softimage then do all the script/code for the map in the map editor.

I wish I knew how to pack my rig up into a addon or something that could be ran similar to the valve source one that will auto build the rig from the menu so that other versions of Softimage could use it but when I think about it you really don't need the full version at all. As for Mac, it's not the best OS to use when it comes to game modding, you might want to consider dual booting Windows if you wanna tackle some real projects. When I was looking at going to an art school for game design a year ago most of the work stations they were using were top shelf Mac machines that dual booted Windows to allow for better flexibility. Not cost efficient for a consumer since the school probably gets a deal on the machine, a custom built PC for the same amount of money can greatly outperform a Mac since the price of their shelf units are high.

What if we could just make ModView use the games renderer or Rend2 through the settings rather than whatever one is built into it? Is that in the realm of possibility? Strip out the code in ModView for it's built in renderer and have it point to an external one that is defined through the settings similar to say how Radiant the first time it's ran it asks to input the game directory.

@ OK, onto the animation deal since @@DT85 and myself were the ones working on this but not actually together in a sense but sort of communicating on what we had done. The JO skeleton has more bones, the base JA models were actually weighed to the same skeleton with all of those bones with all the added animations BUT, the models did not get weighed to the extra bones and therefore when they were sent through carcass they were omitted. This means that even though in the original Softimage 2.x scene file the bones were there they had no envelope information so they never made it into the final compile. You can however import the dotXSI source files for say the staff special move which is JA specific and find that all the bones from JO are there too. So, to make the base models work they would ALL have to be reweighed to the JO skeleton AND all the base animations recompiled as well to include the bones. It's an absolutely ridiculous amount of work. Then, you'd have to recompile every model ever made to the JO skeleton to work, a workaround that DT had was to write some sort of table used by the game that would make the models work, just not take advantage of the bones as they wont have them in the GLM file. The problem always has been that JO models work in JA but JA models don't work in JO so if you take the JO skeleton and apply all the added JA animations to it along with all the JO animations and compile to all into 1 massive GLA file only JO models will work with it unless recompiled. Hope that answered your questions about that, I have over a decade of game modding under my belt and I can tell you that it's a shit ton of work. I was working on a full _humanoid file that could be looked at in Softimage much like how to can play all the animations in ModView but that too was some crazy tedious work that no one really had much interest in.

It's also best to just make the base folder right on the root of your HDD, an example would be... C:/base/models/players/rebel_pilot/ C:/base/models/players/_humanoid/ <-- that's where you'd put the games animation bank