Xycaleth Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 (edited) Original thread: https://jkhub.org/topic/2804-rd-rend2-old-thread/ What is rend2? It's no secret that JKA is over 13 years old and arguably the graphics haven't aged well, compared to recently released games. With graphics having come so far in the past decade, and with JKA's engine source code now available, it would be a shame if nobody at least tried to bring something new to JKA's rendering engine Rend2 is an attempt at this, and brings with it better utilisation of your graphics card for better and increased FPS. More importantly, it makes use of a variety of newer rendering techniques such as real-time dynamic shadows and lighting, normal mapping and specular mapping. Another big feature is physically based rendering: a relatively new feature in games that allows artists to create more realistic materials. So if you love shiny graphics then hopefully this can be something that will appeal to you It adds some extra depth to an otherwise ageing game. It does mean though that you will need a graphics card that was made in the last 6 years! Even if graphics don't matter to you, rend2 gives more stable and increased FPS to give the game a smoother feel. Where can I download it? Currently, only Windows builds for multiplayer are available. Downloads are available from: https://github.com/SomaZ/OpenJK/releases To run rend2: Download the latest version of OpenJK (https://builds.openjk.org) or use the existing build that comes with the rend2 download Extract rd-rend2_x86.dll from the ZIP file into your GameData folder if necessary Start OpenJK In the console, enter (without quotes) '/cl_renderer rd-rend2; vid_restart' Enjoy! Please keep in mind that rend2 is still very heavily WIP and many things can and will change still before it's finished. What does rend2 have so far? Complete Normal mapping Specular mapping Parallax mapping HDR + filmic tonemapping Multisampled Antialiasing Improved texture compression support Working, but still in progress Real-time lighting Real-time sun shadows Image-based lighting TODO Feature parity with the vanilla renderer - surface sprites, fog, flares, misc_bsp, ghoul2 marks. Full list of things to do, including bugs and performance improvements can be found here: https://github.com/xycaleth/OpenJK/issues How can I help? @SomaZ is currently the sole developer for rend2, but I’m sure he would appreciate any help. Whether that be with coding, making examples for others to follow or for him to test features, or even just reporting bugs in this topic! Making examples For examples, this could range from writing some basic materials along with their textures, to creating maps to show off what rend2 can do. These examples would also be used to test rend2 performance and to make sure nothing is broken after any changes to the code. Coding For coding, I would recommend you know computer graphics well enough to implement some basic algorithms on their own (e.g. shadow maps, some post-processing effects). If you are able to do this in Direct3D, then learning OpenGL should be reasonably easy. Unfortunately I don't have the time or inclination to teach graphics to every coder that comes my way. If you think you are able to help, you can find the latest rend2 code in this fork of OpenJK: https://github.com/SomaZ/OpenJK/ All rend2 work is being done in the ‘rend2’ branch. Edited March 18, 2023 by Xycaleth SomaZ is running the show now! SomaZ, Omicron, Sir Crusher and 22 others like this Link to comment
dark_apprentice Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Hey, just saw the old thread and all stuff in it. That is some really amazing stuff. I decided to give it a try to the MP of JKA, so I used the Installation tutorial by Cerez for installing OpenJK (for Windows). But what do i have to do else, in order to achive this good looking HD effect and good new shader as shown in this image: Maksman likes this Link to comment
ensiform Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 It's not included or part of any public releases. It's an early development branch that currently isn't working though that might change soon. dark_apprentice and eezstreet like this Link to comment
Xycaleth Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 Hey, just saw the old thread and all stuff in it. That is some really amazing stuff. I decided to give it a try to the MP of JKA, so I used the Installation tutorial by Cerez for installing OpenJK (for Windows). But what do i have to do else, in order to achive this good looking HD effect and good new shader as shown in this image:Rend2 doesn't automagically make everything HD. That's up to the texture artists. dark_apprentice and Tempust85 like this Link to comment
dark_apprentice Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 (edited) Ah, ok thanks for the info @@ensiform btw still looks amazing for a good old JKA! Congrats on everyone of you who are responsible to bring this for JKA ^^@@Xycaleth well yes, but at the same time i can't say that HS's Kenobi is so good in the textures, instead of a Ep.7 Luke Edited April 9, 2016 by dark_apprentice Link to comment
Xycaleth Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 First post updated AshuraDX, dark_apprentice, SomaZ and 2 others like this Link to comment
AshuraDX Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 @@Xycaleth I'd have a few models to offer once you need them, just drop me a pm and I'll wrap everything up for you Archangel35757, Raz0r and Tempust85 like this Link to comment
minilogoguy18 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 I could at least test, LMK what I need to get started. I have at least 1 model finished that should work with rend2, the AT-ST. Tempust85 likes this Link to comment
Tempust85 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Rend2 only renders, it doesn't create. It's still the artist's job to create the assets and there's alot of artists around here to do just that when the time comes. If you want decent results, texturing would have to be redone at the very least which means works like Hapslash's Obi-wan will not look good "as-is". What you see in that pic is generated normal maps which tbh, the feature should go at some point because it generates a normal map for every texture including menus & effects afaik. dark_apprentice and eezstreet like this Link to comment
Xycaleth Posted April 10, 2016 Author Share Posted April 10, 2016 @@Xycaleth I'd have a few models to offer once you need them, just drop me a pm and I'll wrap everything up for youAwesome, will do I could at least test, LMK what I need to get started. I have at least 1 model finished that should work with rend2, the AT-ST.I'll be adding set up instructions some time today so stay tuned. minilogoguy18 and Tempust85 like this Link to comment
dark_apprentice Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Thank you guys for all this explanation, it's helpful to learn new stuff Btw @@Xycaleth on second view around the test view using HS Kenobi if we look closer on this image of his head, I think it needs to be reduced a little bit, because as it looks now it gives him more shiny look, like his hair is somehow a metallic helmet (which would be better to use over Vader) and not over a normal hair, but that's perhaps something you already know and is from the small details for later period in the development/testing. Link to comment
minilogoguy18 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 @@dark_apprentice That is what DT85 was talking about, you can't expect the model to work as-is with no modification, shaders and textures need to be redone for a good result. dark_apprentice likes this Link to comment
mrwonko Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Is there a place for documentation? I suppose there isn't much available yet, but if there's a wiki page somewhere you don't need to write it all yourself. I'd be interested in playing around with this a bit, and I might as well document it while I'm learning it. Archangel35757 likes this Link to comment
ent Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Missing the list of the in-development features and bugs. minilogoguy18, eezstreet, Tempust85 and 1 other like this Link to comment
minilogoguy18 Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Yes, would be nice to see what works, what's being worked on and what doesn't work at all. Link to comment
ensiform Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 He had a trello board a while back. Weather and surface sprites don't work yet. Flares don't I know for sure. Tempust85 likes this Link to comment
Xycaleth Posted April 10, 2016 Author Share Posted April 10, 2016 First post updated again set up instructions might have to come in the next few days. I was hoping to have set up something which deploys builds for me every night but its going to take longer than i thought it would. minilogoguy18 and Tempust85 like this Link to comment
Tempust85 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Here's the trello link: https://trello.com/b/wdwAvV3n/rend2 Link to comment
Boothand Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 We should gather some screenshots of the most successful usages/tests of the renderer posted so far. SzicoVII had some amazing eye candy from Moonbase and his Bioshock map. minilogoguy18 likes this Link to comment
SomaZ Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) Hey, i just compiled your new version of the renderer, but i cant launch the game:----- Initializing Renderer ----Trying to load "rd-rend2_x86.dll" from "D:\Spiele\StarWarsJediAcademy\GameData"...Mismatched REF_API_VERSION: expected 7, got 8Closing SDL audio device...SDL audio device shut down.Couldn't initialize refreshAny idea? Ah nvm. My fail. Didn't copy the new executable..........How can i activate the new renderer? r_renderer doesn't seem to work anymore. Edited April 11, 2016 by SomaZ Link to comment
eezstreet Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Hey, i just compiled your new version of the renderer, but i cant launch the game:Any idea? Ah nvm. My fail. Didn't copy the new executable..........How can i activate the new renderer? r_renderer doesn't seem to work anymore.The cvar is now cl_renderer I believe Link to comment
Futuza Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 We should gather some screenshots of the most successful usages/tests of the renderer posted so far. SzicoVII had some amazing eye candy from Moonbase and his Bioshock map.I want those maps But SzicoVII has been eaten by real life. Old version of Rend2: BruceJohnJenner, Setlec and Omicron like this Link to comment
ensiform Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 It's always been cl_renderer Tempust85 likes this Link to comment
SomaZ Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 The cvar is now cl_renderer I believeYes, perfect. Thank you. It's always been cl_rendererOk, then it was my fail again haven't played with cvars since i configured the "old" rend2. Link to comment
Exmirai Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Hey, i just compiled your new version of the renderer, but i cant launch the game:Any idea? Ah nvm. My fail. Didn't copy the new executable..........How can i activate the new renderer? r_renderer doesn't seem to work anymore.cl_renderer rd-rend2 Link to comment
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