that's not the point @@minilogoguy18. I have attempted to use OpenJK in the past and I had nothing but issues with it. It messed up Japlus and the JA++ client, errors still were inplace despite me being told specifically they were fixed, and it wouldn't allow me to start up a server or connect to one and i had the latest version. also without a modificition to the directory of openjk it would not of allowed me to launch it.