NumberWan

On 10/19/2020 at 4:07 PM, The Unguided said:

Can anyone tell me where can I download the Darth Whirmah model? Looks like it's not within the Dark Pastime files.

I'd highly appreciate it.

Hi, he is part of the story, so he'll appear in later chapters.

13 hours ago, RobiWanKen0bi said:

Did all that, but I'm not sure can you "USE" the datapads in the cantina. I can USE the bouncer for the scenes and the patrons for talking but nothing else. I see in the pk3 files that the datapads contain text, but in-game I can't read them. The models are scattered in the cantina and I've found them all as far as I know, but can't use/read them. I'm using OpenJK and a widescreen setting. Could that affect the game or?

This never happened before. The game makes one datapad available at a time, so it can be any of the five datapads, scattered around the cantina. It's possible to use one only once. After that a hint would suggest, what you could do to progress further. If you've already read a datapad, then you'll be able to spot an R2 unit, which would move down the street. It's possible to follow him and use the first choice.

If you found the patriotic 'entry' in the secret level, then it's possible to use the Jbox.

I doubt, OpenJK can cause such an issue. Widescreen shouldn't be a problem, and if you played Ord Mantell, then you could find another datapad in a secret area there as well. 

If you've found the patriotic 'song' and checked on the Bouncer in the club – presumably if you've looked through each corner and datapads in the cantina – there is a way to the JBox now or the R2 unit instead.

3 hours ago, RobiWanKen0bi said:

Umm... can you be more specific?

In order to use a different way – with the Jbox – you must find the 'music' datapad. However it's not in the cantina, but in a secret area, which can be found in the same district.

Hi, the JBox can't be used just of 'nowhere'.
Before using it, one more step must be made in the very same sector of the city.

PK3 must have a correct structure inside. So it'll be like PK3 (inside: models/weapons2/lightsaber_your_name). If your hilt uses a shader, it should also be put inside the very same PK3 ((inside: shaders/your_shader.shader). The saber parameters are stored inside a your_saber.sab file, which is usually in ext_data/sabers. And it also goes inside your PK3 pack.

On 7/24/2020 at 1:54 AM, Spectrometer said:

This, i think, was the problem, I reinstalled everything again AND created this folder, and there was no bug anymore.

Now I can play normally for now, thanks!

Good! Have a nice play!

On 5/23/2020 at 10:19 PM, AmosMagee said:

Oh my goodness. I cannot believe there's still a community. It's been forever since my ICoP & JKFiles days. 

I happened upon this little slice of nostalgia when I was trying to find my personal skin from wayyyy back in the day. I'm hopping on a server tonight, so I was hoping ... but no skins to be found.  

Anyway, it's good to see the modding community for JK games is still alive and well!  

(Just wanted to say hi)

There've been several periods of rise and decline. I would say, that currently the JK community is mostly calm, but not without enthusiasm.  Just like in the 2000s era there is the FILES section, and just like in those years people continue to communicate here via good old Forums instead of sticking to the Social Media. We also have a Wiki about JK series and the modding aspects of it. 

One of the most notable changes is a number of authors, I would say, who continue to bring joy with lots of new models from almost every Star Wars story, which exists today. And yes, the JK source files were 'released' several years ago, which sparked quite an interest of coders to the JA engine capabilities and beyond.

There was time, when I learnt mapping with WorldCraft editor (this one was Half-Life video game, but I created 1 small map for JO as well), after which I switched to Gtk Radiant, which was far better in hundreds of terms. Currently I'm trying to get used to NetRadiant, which seems to be gaining popularity among fans more and more.

Original Dark Forces, Dark Forces II and MOTS had other editors. I can't name them, but there were several mods, some quite peculiar. There was even an Episode I mod for Dark Forces II MOTS, where you can play Obi Wan and slash Battle Droids on Naboo.

On 7/17/2020 at 1:33 AM, Spectrometer said:

Thanks, NumberWan. Yes, I have already tried pressing Esc but the game doesn't create a Save.

I think the problem is with the path or the folders' names, I will try that then. 

Even if you fix the path to the main JA folder, you'll also have to check one more position: like C:\Users\Documents\My Games\OpenJK\DP_Chapter1 

Nobody reported this problem before, but it might depend on the JA version or your PC specifics. One person mentioned, that he couldn't load one of the next maps in a similar manner (but the game crashed) due to a wrong path way for the mod. Quite often people make a wrong folder inside the base folder, run the mod and then the issues begin. The issues was fixed with the right path name: it must be DP_Chapter1 (not DPChapter1).

You could try using Esc button multiple times during the loading screen and see whether the game would bring you to the Main Menu (it should do that). If so, you might check whether it made a Save File for the next map.

That's quite an unusual bug. I've never encountered anything like. But I would agree, that the problem could with visual card specifics.

In my experience different versions of GtkRadiant worked differently on the very same PC. My favourite one was 1.3 for a very long time, until I had to switch to newer ones, which sometimes showed very different bugs. The most stable is 1.6.6 which I use these days.

On 5/19/2020 at 9:18 AM, RASAS said:

but Dromund Kaas is in the Outer Rim why are they saying it is in the Unknown Regions ? Was Wild Space and some Outer Rim Worlds considered to be part of the Unknown Regions until they were discovered ?

That's what I said above – Regions change as they are explored more and more. As we know now – Kreia mentioned, that the Sith wait in the unknown, so Dromund Kaas was most likely an absolutely unknown location during the era of the Jedi Civil War and before. It was best known with the crusade of the Sith Emperor Vitiate.

I guess some time after Valkorion was defeated, Dromund Kaas might have been abandoned (the Sith might have resettled elsewhere). As Dromund Kaas isn't exactly a planet most people would like to visit (for trade, curiosity or friendly reasons), the path there became lost in time. Other planets in that region (not star system) could still be a place for travellers though, who would ignore Dromund Kaas.

Speaking of this Sith World I just recalled, how I played Mysteries of the Sith years ago and mostly forgot about the planet until it came to light again as the Imperial capital in SWTOR.

On 5/17/2020 at 1:32 PM, RASAS said:

so basically, what you are saying anything in some way is possible in the Unknown Regions, even humans living and being in the Unknown Regions ? Also would it be possible for the Sith species to still exist in the Unknown Regions despite they supposedly became extinct ? Because if the Rule of 2 could make the Jedi think the Sith Order went extinct then....

Also, so Wild Space and the Unknown Regions have plenty of unexplored areas in them for new planets to be created in the Star Wars Universe ? 

Also is the Sith Empire from the Unknown Regions or from Wild Space, because Dromund Kaas and Korriban and Ziost are in Wild Space not the Unknown Regions ?

I think humans visited the region hundreds of times before the events of A New Hope, so the answer is most likely yes. I doubt the Sith species actually exist by the time of the Galactic Empire of Palpatine though, as their most active role in the Galaxy was long before even the perish of the Sith on Ruusan (around 1000 BBY). The Unknown regions hold lots of many others however, the thing is that it's not just planets or systems not shown on maps, but the lack of hyperspace routes, like the Perlemian trade route. Depending on the location, some worlds like Taris flourished until a new, better hyperspace lane was found. Perlemian route ended with Quermia, led directly to Wild Space.

Wild Space differs from the Unknown regions in terms, that it surrounds the Known regions of the Galaxy, like the Outer Rim. It's possible, that Wild Space is at least partly known to include some planets and home of various species, but is difficult to organize on maps or control by larger governments like the Republic, the Empire or Hutt Cartel. For instance there could be multiple pirate worlds, which are difficult to find and navigation isn't clear. Unknown regions are also far larger – enough to include something as big as a secret intergalactic government.

Not sure about the Sith Empire. It's best to check this one with the SWTOR lore. My guess is that Dromund Kaas was part of the Unknown regions in the past, but became part of Wild Space because this area became better known to a larger Galaxy due to the war conflict between the Sith Empire and the Old Republic. Kreia indirectly hints, that this the where the True Sith hide. When they attack, the location is no longer that secretive. By the time of the Clone Wars Dromund Kass had an entry in the Jedi Archives, but is believed to have been removed from it together with 20 more planets like Kamino and Dagobah. Nevertheless Clone Wars affected DK too, and it was later used by the Empire for the acolytes. And then appeared in MOTS – so by this time it could be part of a more or less known Galactic space, rarely visited by anyone.

I didn't like the show overall, but some scenes and episodes were good. The introduction of the Mandalorian was well-made and enjoyable, however the general feel was closer to Star Trek than Star Wars (imho). I guess in this series we could say, that the unknown appearance of the main character without emotions on the "face" works both ways – a mysterious warrior, but with the story pace too slow. Again, this is how I feel about the character.

16 hours ago, RASAS said:

thank you for responding,

however is it possible for humans to be found in the unknown regions or maybe even true sith species ?

Depends on the era of Star Wars. As dark soul stated above, some are no longer in existence. True Sith were in that area around the time, shown in the SWTOR video game. Chiss are the ones coming from somewhere of that region as well, the same goes to the Rakata Empire, which had their Capital planet (Lehon or Rakata Prime) located in the Unknown regions (however the 500 controlled worlds were in different parts of the modern Galaxy, like Dantooine, Tatooine and many others).

I guess Humans could exist in the Unknown regions as well – some of them could be the ancestors of the space travellers or resettlers from the old times, who tried to escape the many conflicts of the Galaxy in the past. Others could be the immigrated species like slaves, captured by someone from the UR and taken there to serve. Pirates and Mercenaries could be there too! We can also assume, that some species which are known as near-humans (like Chiss) could have their home planets in that area.

I think the authors left some parts of the Galaxy unexplored, because it always offered an opportunity to create something new for books, video games, comics, etc. and preserve the element of mystery in Star Wars universe. Both UR and the Wild Space.

I guess, you can simply have a look at one of these old maps of the Galaxy. The Unknown regions are a large part of the Galaxy, not explored, thus there are quite a lot of uncharted worlds there, as well as unknown species. It might not be the same size as the known Galaxy, but is pretty large. One difference could be the lack of an established hyperspace or trade route, which leads to Coruscant.

There is also a large area called the Wild Space. This is mostly a known section, but with many unknown worlds, rarely visited by common travellers or traders.

I made my own ancient Sith Lord NPC, with the Cultist class applied. It had a different model, no weapons and used Lightning extensively.

It's important to note, that the Class would work differently depending if other conditions are met as well: like a number of weapons (or lack of these), level of Force powers and other lines inside the *.npc file.

Just for info: in Jedi Outcast, NPC_Class wouldn't work, if the NPC file didn't have the standard class word in the name of the NPC.
For example: Jack wouldn't work in JO, but Jedi_Jack, as well as rodian_Jack would be able to act as a Jedi or as a Rodian respectively. Only for Jedi Outcast.

Coding is needed only if you want to change the Kyle_boss class specifics and add something more to the behaviour of it (that is if you want to add something more complex than common scripts through BehavEd usually do).

If you want your NPC to fight simply like Kyle does from DS storyline of JA, then you can copy Kyle_Boss.npc and change model and name there inside this file (no need for coding, just open it as a TXT).

You need to change the NPC class as well. For this one it should also be Kyle_boss.

Some classes have unique specifics about them, like Imperials can't use Kyle's blaster for example. And Boba Fett can't be killed, even if you beat him badly.

However some of these can still be altered additionally via scripts.

@Apprentice

1) It was always my intention to make a proper installation .exe for the mod (like it was with the Demo). I know how to make one in fact, but even in this case I would have to spend time on making an installer instead of making the mod itself. Back those days we had a friend, who would spend time solely on the technical aspects such as making an installer for us  Now our team consists of only a few people, contributing to the project, aside from the voice actors.

2) We had to stick to OpenJK, as it fixes a lot of JA bugs, which prevented DP from running (due to amount of details and the size of the areas). Making other options for the resolution is also the most welcome thing, but we'll need another team member for that, while everyone is busy with making models, textures, maps, etc. JA isn't exactly the best game for solving technical issues of it, so sometimes it's what made people change their mind about helping with making a new story for this game.

3) The reason here is purely the same as with finding people to help us finish the unfinished stuff. There aren't many to find. I had a lot of ideas both for the gameplay and for the visual aspects, for example. I would have preferred to change the game engine and make it visually appealing like Warzone by @UniqueOne, or adding some tasty elements like what Rend2 can do as mentioned by @Xycaleth . But usually people want to create their own project, because this gives a certain creative freedom. I was asked by various people to help to work on Star Wars mods for the Empire at war and other games, and I would always have to say – I'm sorry, but I can't (simply because I want a story of my own and I'm working on it). 

Finding a Voice actor in English is equally problematic if not even a harder task. Persuading our friends was a challenge (some agreed without reservations though), but that didn't go smooth at the start. Later on I met new people, who agreed to provide voices for the NPCs, which are quite many in DP (there were more than 50 pages of dialogs at the very start). Currently I rewrote part of them and asked new people to voice characters in a new manner. Some were added later and are completely new.

A few years ago, one User offered his help with voicing everything into English, but it didn't go anywhere, even though he gave me some examples of their work. @lang_french also offered his help with voicing all the parts in DP in French, but the reason why it's not currently possible is the same – too many voices and characters and some parts currently being updated.

A good idea and reasonable points, but there are simply no resources to fulfill them all.

Season 7 is a good example of how a Star Wars project should look like. The series made a great step forward with graphics and story-telling, which I mentioned back with the previous seasons. Season 7 has a slightly different approach – with much of the work done long ago, they could polish the plot and focus on the philosophy and development of the characters. Surely, you can feel some new additions in these episodes, which weren't present earlier. For instance, they replaced the original characters with the Martez sisters, which is absolutely okey with me.  

As much as I dislike the idea of Maul being resurrected, his presence here is more than enjoyable. Not sure if I truly like the idea of him being the puppet-master himself. But the current arc looks beautiful.

I hope, that next year we'll eventually get four more arks from the Clone Wars, which are set on Utapau (Anakin and Kenobi vs Grievous), Kashyyk (the Bad Batch against Kinraths from KOTOR), Tatooine (Boba Fett, Cad Bane and Tusken raiders) and Pantora (Assaj Ventress and Quinlan Vos). The unfinished versions are partly available in the net.

Well, as far as I know, people loved Coruscant, but they didn't like the idea of too much Senate and the Senators. Politics. This was never a problem for me, because it gave the prequels a good old Babylon-V feel, or perhaps motives from the political series from 1970-1990s. Still marketing works in a different manner – it usually counts the risks, rather than what the "heart says". That's the reason between 1990s and 2010s – the enthusiasm is no longer a locomotive. At least for Star Wars franchise.

So I played up to the end and the game looks good. I would say, it serves the purpose and gives proper emotions. My complaints from the above post remain the same though.  

@Rooxon

Thanks for this nice tutorial! I would say, that it's best to explore all the opportunities and see, which options work for you in every specific case. Personally, I started with a well-written one by @Milamber, which describes how to combine the existing model with a new mesh.

While I do have 3ds Max of 2016, imported and exported models don't usually act in the same way as in tutorials. For instance during the import all tags are labelled *blade1, while in order to be exported the correct way, it's important to rename them to tag_blade1 instead. Some things such as this one became clear to me only after reading both your tutorial and others.

I started playing the Fallen Order just a few days ago, and I felt disappointed with the very first mini-chapters, like Bracca or Bogano. My problem was that the game engine is really beautiful, but the developers didn't use it to the full potential to make the worlds more diverse. What I mean is that there are lots of decorations, but the planets don't look unique in any way. Bracca is another Ord Mantell or any other garbage planet from Star Wars. Bogano seemed to be far better with ancient temple, but I would have preferred some more civilisation, not empty canyons, where crates present skins and colors for your clothes, saber and BD-1 instead of some useful items.

But it could still be okey. The problem is that the game only has a few locations to visit, and these are quite familiar in most cases. Kashyyk is a clear copy of its predecessors from KOTOR, Republic Commando as well as Star Wars Kinect and The Force Unleashed (these two especially). The situation on the wookie world is the same: the Imperials occupied it, you have to free the locals and fight off stormtroopers. I would say, that this plays off nicely, if you consider Kashyyk being under oppression through different years, that you visit it as Starkiller or Cal Kestis (even though these aren't part of one universe/timeline). But I've seen all f this already, as well as AT-AT fight from Battlefront II...

Too bad no Coruscant or alive cities in this game.

My most disappointment is with the need of passing through the same locations again and again, fighting the same respawned enemies. It would be nice to see Zeffo changed after you leave it the first time, but the enemies appear in the very same manner, be it stormtroopers or local rats.  Save slots aren't in the "control points", but at specific meditation areas. Sometimes this works badly, as you fight a Jedi Hunter and KX droid afterwards without any pause. After you kill it no way to hide from AT-ST and multiple enemies, which might kill you, thus you fail with the third mini-boss in a row and have to play through all of them from the beginning.

Speaking of negative side, I can't ignore the positive things of the FO. The areas – as simple as they might be – look wonderful. Texturing and materials look realistic and you can almost feel the different structure. Classic elements from Star Wars are all present here, with old enemies having a new approach towards their look and abilities. You even meet some from the new films and this is a nice experience. Bogano is mysterious and full of exploration, while Zeffo gives deepness to the Galaxy by showing new ancient aliens. Puzzles are also good, perhaps like in Lara Croft, but not so many. 

Meeting Tach (little monkey used to create Tarisian ale) from KOTOR was a nice little surprise.