Moonbase Labs

[mrwonko]

howd u do that with the water to where its warping the texture underneath it?

I hadn't noticed that yet... It should be impossible. Maybe some trickery with using a different texture below it? Usually this sort of effect (refraction) requires a fragment shader, and JKA hardly supports them. (Except for the force push effect and the cloak in SP. And the shield? Something like that. Surely hardcoded, anyway.)

[ChalklYne]

yeah man i was like wtf.. but it could be brushwork as well... like.. kind of how u do mirrors maybe? or the whole damn thing could be a animated shader just blended into the rest of the dry tiles?

[CrimsonStrife]

It is one of those things...he could tell you, but then he would have to kill you.

 

Them's the rules.

[Corto]

If only JK2 maps looked like this. I would be in love...

[Szico VII]

Its a rather convoluted setup combining alpha fade, environment maps and various tcmod/turb options plus a few others on the floor underneath (combined with some radiant brushwork/patch tricks)- spent a few hours making it look right with the water. Glad that's done. Its not perfect but its pretty good now I think! New pics:

 

 

 

 

And now I have to kill you all.

[CaptainChar]

I got no idea of the technical stuff Szico said, only that it looks BADASS

[ChalklYne]

in lamens..

first he skooled us with shaders n mapping..

now he wants to murder us to sew up any loose ends

 

=)

[Szico VII]

http://youtu.be/USoX7SHJZds

 

In Action.

[ChalklYne]

omagoodness...

[Corto]

Why don't the original maps look like that? Huh? Can you answer me that question? Why didn't Raven make maps with that level of quality?

[CaptainChar]

they prob didn't have the skills to pull it off back then

[Szico VII]

I'll put up a tutorial for the water and stuff when the map is done if people would like?

[Horatio Culver]

I'll put up a tutorial for the water and stuff when the map is done if people would like?

Yes! I don't even map very often, and I would like to get my hands on it!

[CaptainChar]

Szico, one of the few great mappers that actually will also give learning materials instead of hording all his secrets to himself

[Szico VII]

I think it was a rhetorical question

[Jango40]

What are you doing with this poor old engine?!

[Corto]

Time constraints, group environment, focus on single player conveyance, time constraints, older compiler with less enhancements, time constraints, internal project deadlines and goals, time constraints.

 

Thanks for taking me seriously, honestly. I'm aware that the main difference between the guy who modeled Kyle Katarn and me is not the skill, but the time he had to put into the model. I'm sure they can model much better than I do if they could spend a lifetime to finish it =P. How's the challenge going by the way? I've seen the rules and guidelines, seems interesting. I would participate myself, but I don't have enough time to get up to speed with radiant until the deadline.

[Corto]

Heh, I was being facetious. I know that you know.

 

Goes well. It's a whole different beast then what I'm used to. There's quite a bit I have to learn, but I've picked up it extremely fast. If only my C++ was better, the scripting would come naturally.

 

Lol, I didn't take the wrong way, I hope you know. I read the rules and I like specially the part that says "If you deviate from the plan, be prepared to explain why". As for the C++, you'll learn quick. I haven't got contact with C/C++ programming in a decade and I'm catching up very fast with the JK2 code.

[Szico VII]

Oh, we're not speaking of the mapping collaboration? ...I'm lost.

[Corto]

And since I'm a fan of Hello Kitty I am most interested. Now let's get back to talk about this sexy map =).

[Szico VII]

Final shots of caverns. Time to move on I think.

 

 

 

 

 

[sprites]

I want this map!

[CaptainChar]

if anyone can map JA to look like an entirely new game or modern, it'd be Scizo

[Szico VII]

Who is this Scizo? I must meet him

[CrimsonStrife]

What are you doing with this poor old engine?!

Are you asking what is he doing TO it, or why is he still using it?