SUPERHOT Player model/Enemy model.

[Psyk0Sith]

The only way to tell is to check the s.m.a.r.t status:

https://www.howtogeek.com/134735/how-to-see-if-your-hard-drive-is-dying/

[TheWhitePhoenix]

I think I have a fault with the Hard Drive. Some folders I make randomly go corrupt and are impossible to delete/access. It's all I have so I make do.

That's not good, dude....I think you should start saving up for another laptop. And try going for the 400+ category cause 300 and below is usually shit.

[Daedra]

That's not good, dude....I think you should start saving up for another laptop. And try going for the 400+ category cause 300 and below is usually shit.

 

That's pretty much what I'm thinking of doing. Had this thing for too many years already.

[Daedra]

The only way to tell is to check the s.m.a.r.t status:

https://www.howtogeek.com/134735/how-to-see-if-your-hard-drive-is-dying/

 

Folders went corrupt to the point where it wouldn't even boot. Had to manually install a backup of windows 7 on factory settings, losing all my files. I think it's dying. lol

[Noodle]

Folders went corrupt to the point where it wouldn't even boot. Had to manually install a backup of windows 7 on factory settings, losing all my files. I think it's dying. lol

 

Holy fuck, how did you put up with that for so long? Your computer seems to be suffering from some sort of digital AIDS.

[Daedra]

Holy fuck, how did you put up with that for so long? Your computer seems to be suffering from some sort of digital AIDS.

 

USB drives.

 

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I still need someone who can rig the model for me before I can continue with the textures and shaders.

[Teancum]

You kinda got bigger problems to handle first. If your PC dies the model won't matter.

[Daedra]

You kinda got bigger problems to handle first. If your PC dies the model won't matter.

 

I have online backups and USB backups. My main issue is getting the model rigged by someone.

[TheWhitePhoenix]

I have online backups and USB backups. My main issue is getting the model rigged by someone.

Can't beat My Passports. These lovely up to 4TB (so far) portable harddrives never let me down. Have one that's a 10 year old 500GB and she's still running. Recently got a new 1TB to compete with her, though.

[Circa]

What tutorial and modeling site did you use?

[Daedra]

What tutorial and modeling site did you use?

 

Vectary. Lovely little site and I just followed the tutorials that it offered to get me a simple understanding of how the controls work.

[AshuraDX]

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Up until now, I honestly thought you were a decent guy.

 

But this is absolutely not okay.

 

While taking a closer look at "your" model, I noticed that the right hand of "your model" was clutched, just like it was on that screenshot of the ripped model you showed in your first post before editing it.

 

Let's compare a few screenshots here:

 

The left third shows screenshots from the game and the right two thirds show screenshots from the clara.io link you sent

The bottom half of the image shows the same screenshots but with a few paintovers I did to highlight the 100% matching mesh topology between both models.

 

 

I did not yet get my hands on the original game mesh to do further comparisons between the rest of the mesh and what you uploaded to clara.io - but I think this allready suffices to call you out on your bullshit.

 

This is HIGHLY disrespectful to the original creator of he model.

 

If you guys want to post requests for ports - fine, do it!

 

But claim ripped models as your own Work and I'm going to expose you as the liars you are.

 

 

I don't want to catch you doing this again.

 

[Daedra]

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Up until now, I honestly thought you were a decent guy.

 

But this is absolutely not okay.

 

While taking a closer look at "your" model, I noticed that the right hand of "your model" was clutched, just like it was on that screenshot of the ripped model you showed in your first post before editing it.

 

Let's compare a few screenshots here:

 

The left third shows screenshots from the game and the right two thirds show screenshots from the clara.io link you sent

The bottom half of the image shows the same screenshots but with a few paintovers I did to highlight the 100% matching mesh topology between both models.

 

 

I did not yet get my hands on the original game mesh to do further comparisons between the rest of the mesh and what you uploaded to clara.io - but I think this allready suffices to call you out on your bullshit.

 

This is HIGHLY disrespectful to the original creator of he model.

 

If you guys want to post requests for ports - fine, do it!

 

But claim ripped models as your own Work and I'm going to expose you as the liars you are.

 

 

I don't want to catch you doing this again.

 

 

I think you are misunderstanding what I did entirely. I made a side-by-side copy of the model, drawing the lines and extruding the faces  doing 1:1 comparisons from the front, left, right, and bottom to get them looking as close to the original model topology as possible.

 

Also thank you for pointing that out about the clara link. Totally missed that I uploaded the wrong obj model! That one I can admit to. Don't need to be so angry about it.

[Circa]

Saying you made a model from "scratch" by tracing an existing model is kind of a stretch, wouldn't you say? And also seems kind of pointless. You may as well just use the original model, no?

[Teancum]

Well the true test then would be the original model and your model as an overlay. Because the reality of it would be that nobody copies every polygon perfectly, even when trying. Verts would be slightly off all over the place. In other words a fake of a painting could be determined, it's the same with a model. If your model were put directly over the original, would all the verts match up perfect?

[Daedra]

Well the true test then would be the original model and your model as an overlay. Because the reality of it would be that nobody copies every polygon perfectly, even when trying. Verts would be slightly off all over the place. In other words a fake of a painting could be determined, it's the same with a model. If your model were put directly over the original, would all the verts match up perfect?

 

No they wouldn't be the same, I did try to copy it as closely as possible, though there are still imperfections on the model and I don't think it's even the same scale as the original. Its my first attempt ever, but I've been blessed to get a lot of time to put into it.

 

 

Saying you made a model from "scratch" by tracing an existing model is kind of a stretch, wouldn't you say? And also seems kind of pointless. You may as well just use the original model, no?

 

 

Well its hit and miss. Let's say I just made it without using the original model as a guide, that would be fine and hey that's some original art! That's good, but my intention is not to make an art piece, my intention is to make a model that resembles the source as much as humanly possible. It is probably a stretch, I can agree on that, but still.. it's like lightsaber hilts. Most, if not all of them are made from some form of reference, no? For example: It's not disrespectful to whoever designed Kanan's Lightsaber in SW Rebels that someone made an identical looking model for JKA, it's actually a nice homage. It's all about certain points of view.

 

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On a different note:

 

I'm just going to retire from modding. I'll leave this open as a request though and any other requests I have made. If Ashura still wants to do this model, don't let me stop that from happening, not going to be negative about that, in fact I encourage it!

 

I've deleted the model I spent time on to create. The whole point of modding is to be motivated to do so, you need to have at the very least a bit of passion to do it and put effort into it, but all the negativity has lost my motivation entirely. I still have the soundpack for this though, so I'll just leave that here if you ever want to use it for this model or any other, I don't really care:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/6eedes3y7s5227o/soundpack%28shot%29.zip

 

This community isn't very good at all. The only good thing about it is actually getting new content which I do like, and of course, meeting a select few people who are super nice, but that's about it.

 

And it's all about this "mentality" that's going around, I'm actually sick of it. This is a modding site for old SW game(s), if they aren't already abandonware by now. First you have the requests in general; someone makes a request and what do you see? "Do it yourself, learn how to do it." "This won't get done because nobody else wants this character in this old game." "Nobody would make this model from scratch since it does not interest them." I am tired of the negativity honestly. Requests are supposed to be positive, and if you can't help make the request real then why bother posting at all? Save your wasted time that you took to type that out. And let's say people actually listen to those negative advices (like I did) and actually attempted it themselves. Look at the negativity THAT also created! This is super motivational for people to actually learn how to mod.. NOT.

 

Secondly is all this hot mess about ports. People are getting so obsessed over ports to the point that it just gets entirely blurred and it becomes easier to shout "PORT!! IT'S A DIRTY PORT!!! SHAME ON YOU!" rather than to actually appreciate that someone took the time to attempt to learn how to mod and take a stab at some creativity (however you see it).

 

And there lies the flaw in the community. Case and point.

 

And yes, I'm aware that to others this post may come across as whining, or that I'm just a crybaby. I'm none of those, if anything I'm simply tired of people double backing on their own words. It's pointless, all of it. You make a request, it gets ignored or you get rather negative responses with little to no actual help. Then taking on that request yourself and you get slandered even more. And this coming from the very people who PREFER if you make it yourself, even pride themselves on their crumbling words and beliefs of how they want others to mod.

 

So far the only decent people I've actually seen in this thread is TheWhitePhoenix and Lord Of Hate, at least in regards to positivity and on topic. Decent users and people right there.

 

I won't be making any more mods and I will not make any attempt to improve on the skills I learned from Vectary at this point in time, my motivation just isn't there, together with the Flu I've had, I guess I'm just not feeling up to it. Perhaps way in the future, if this community actually gets any better I may take it up again, learn some more skills and take another stab at making a model, if people here actually change for better and stop demonizing people who join and try to participate in this site.

 

I've said my peace, that's all I have to say.

[Circa]

If you were given a picture of a cartoon character and a pencil and a stack of paper and told to recreate the picture to the best of your ability with unlimited tries and final product as to be done from scratch, what do you do first? You'd probably trace the original picture a few times right? To get the feel of how the character is drawn. Then you move on to doing it without tracing, because the rules state it has to be done by your own hand, not the original artist's. Since you had unlimited tries, tracing it in the beginning is not a problem, and is expected for you to learn.

 

Same applies here. Tracing and using the original model is fine and encouraged. But to take that and claim it as your own and from scratch was just completely false. That's the issue people have here. Using the process to learn things was great, that site looked really cool. The fact that you did that project within like 1 day was impressive, hence me asking what site it was because I wanted to also check it out.

 

The fact that the original model is a port makes it worse because you would have been fine by just keeping this a port request. Nobody cares as much as you are making it seem regarding asking for ports. It only becomes an issue if you submit ported content to our file section, which that whole situation was handled almost a year ago now.

 

The point of this whole thing was to question your mindset on claiming that model as your own, and instead use it as a learning stepping stone to actually creating it from scratch. I encourage you to work towards making a version without "tracing" the original. It'll take a bunch of tries I'm sure but it would be rewarding and you could actually say you made it from scratch.

[Daedra]

If you were given a picture of a cartoon character and a pencil and a stack of paper and told to recreate the picture to the best of your ability with unlimited tries and final product as to be done from scratch, what do you do first? You'd probably trace the original picture a few times right? To get the feel of how the character is drawn. Then you move on to doing it without tracing, because the rules state it has to be done by your own hand, not the original artist's. Since you had unlimited tries, tracing it in the beginning is not a problem, and is expected for you to learn.

 

Same applies here. Tracing and using the original model is fine and encouraged. But to take that and claim it as your own and from scratch was just completely false. That's the issue people have here. Using the process to learn things was great, that site looked really cool. The fact that you did that project within like 1 day was impressive, hence me asking what site it was because I wanted to also check it out.

 

The fact that the original model is a port makes it worse because you would have been fine by just keeping this a port request. Nobody cares as much as you are making it seem regarding asking for ports. It only becomes an issue if you submit ported content to our file section, which that whole situation was handled almost a year ago now.

 

The point of this whole thing was to question your mindset on claiming that model as your own, and instead use it as a learning stepping stone to actually creating it from scratch. I encourage you to work towards making a version without "tracing" the original. It'll take a bunch of tries I'm sure but it would be rewarding and you could actually say you made it from scratch.

 

Again I wasn't directly tracing.

 

This is what I was doing basically:

 

 

But digitally.

 

I was using the original model for reference. I was trying to model my way for how I could understand it and learn, and not do it the way professional modders do it. Also I didn't try to claim the original as my own, I was trying to find a platform to give a 3D preview, but I uploaded the wrong obj model by accident, and I didn't notice until it was rudely pointed out.

 

And I stick by what I said. If Ashura still wants to take this up he can, if not then cool. Perhaps in the future I'll go back to Vectary and try out some more things. For now I just want to get through this Flu & Infection and don't need extra drama for trying out something new. That is also why I was able to do it rather fast (to cover your intrigue), I didn't really sleep much, so I spent most if not all of the last 3 nights at least doing that without breaks.

[Circa]

Also I didn't try to claim the original as my own, I was trying to find a platform to give a 3D preview, but I uploaded the wrong obj model by accident, and I didn't notice until it was rudely pointed out.

And you're just telling us this now? If you uploaded the original model than the accusation holds true, that it was in fact the exact model. His post was harsh, yes. But you didn't even point out that it was the original model until just now.

 

I don't doubt you were able to do something like this in one day, after messing around in Vectary myself it makes things very quick. No harm there.

 

Again, I encourage you to use this method to keep learning. If you give up after someone accuses you of copying work, then you just appear guilty.

[Daedra]

And you're just telling us this now? If you uploaded the original model than the accusation holds true, that it was in fact the exact model. His post was harsh, yes. But you didn't even point out that it was the original model until just now.

 

I don't doubt you were able to do something like this in one day, after messing around in Vectary myself it makes things very quick. No harm there.

 

Again, I encourage you to use this method to keep learning. If you give up after someone accuses you of copying work, then you just appear guilty.

 

It was accidental though, I was thinking it was my version of the model (I had the two obj files in separate directories which were named the exact same "untitled"). I again still stand by what I said. I'll get through this moment in time first (sickness). The future can always change. I was going to retire anyway, because Vaang was going to be my last mod, but I thought why not try out making a full model from scratch before quitting. I can always try it another time.

[Circa]

Accidents happen. You only needed to explain that you uploaded the wrong one, and Ashura would have probably said "okay that makes more sense" and we could move on.

[Daedra]

Accidents happen. You only needed to explain that you uploaded the wrong one, and Ashura would have probably said "okay that makes more sense" and we could move on.

 

I know that @@AshuraDX is very talented, and I am sure his version would be far better than mine ever would be. I hope he can still do this.