Fixed Saber Hilts 1.1

great!

Interesting fix. Never noticed that issue before, really.

Really, very good idea, I download it now !

Every hilt I see looks improperly scaled too large... Someone should check their scaling against the real-world props from the prequels.

Always noticed this issue, and always saw it exploited because of the range it would grant.

Really glad this is done! Now people can't exploit the saber hilts for their range..

Much needed, thank you. Some of the sabers are gigantic, as @@Archangel35757 said; it should be also fixed.  But this is really nice Circa. 

Very strange issue O.o why they made them like this??? This is very nice improvment . Pity i t doesnt on all sabers but this would be to much work. Nice Job!

Yes, the vanilla hilts do seem too large. Maybe they've done it like that to make the sabers more noticeable, since you can take a good look at them only in the menu. About that, for JK:Enhanced, would it be possible if the sabers were upscaled in the menu? So they're bein viewed much bigger, I mean.

Nice! I was looking for something like this. I hope this works as well with some stances and animations mods which have the same problem with hands and hilts.

Yes, the vanilla hilts do seem too large. Maybe they've done it like that to make the sabers more noticeable, since you can take a good look at them only in the menu. About that, for JK:Enhanced, would it be possible if the sabers were upscaled in the menu? So they're bein viewed much bigger, I mean.

More likely they were modeled at 100% size and during export they failed to scale them down to 64% like the character is done. Thus they look huge compared to player in-game. Regardless, this should be fixed also.

I can scale them down. I actually scaled the Praetor hilt slightly because it's one of my favorites but it's huge. Some of them don't need to be scaled as much, like Arbiter and Firebrand.

Always noticed this issue, and always saw it exploited because of the range it would grant.

Really glad this is done! Now people can't exploit the saber hilts for their range..

Since this is all just some clientside adjustments, it will make absolutely no difference regarding your range if you use this mod (Which is indeed a nice adjustment! ^^) or not If someone went ahead and made a clientside which would give you a saber the length of the map, then you would not be able to deal out damage from a greater distance either These things are handled on the serverside

This is something that always bothered me too. Glad you fixed it.

It's really not the hilt that's the problem, the tags on the base models are placed wrong but when people make custom hilts they tend to not use a *parent tag and instead let the models center do that job and just move it lower in Y space before export.

Fun fact.

The base hilts didn't have parent tags, though. And it was an issue with custom player models as well, from what I have gathered.

The issue is actually the rhang_tag_bone being moved up. Silly Raven...

I'd love to see a rescaled + repositioned saber mod though.

Since they are base sabers, the pack is fully compatible with multiplayer isn't it?

No change of hits or defense I take it, since the server is responsible for that.

Actually it is because the three single saber stances have the hand tag too high. If you check the sabers in the dual stance or staff stance you'll see they are held lower. You can also use timescale commands and different camera angles to see that the sabers are held lower during all the other animations. Such as the attacks, runs, walks, force, etc.

When I made my animations I moved the hand tag in each frame to be correct.

The base hilts didn't have parent tags, though. And it was an issue with custom player models as well, from what I have gathered.

You don't need them at all, the game will just use the models local transform values to use in place of a parent tag.

So simple, but so useful. However, the first thing surprised me was the scale of hilts, which were too big in hand... anything someone told before me sooner in the topic.

But when we think about the handle, in the films, actors use the centrifugal force with the stick which be transformed in blade during post-prod, so they hold the hilt some high... But laser has no wheight. Well, this becomes so much easy to make figures and using the lightsaber to hold it at the base low, like in the game. In a scientific point of view, the game was correct.

But after all we're agree, this is very better to see with the fix^^

I didn't mess with the scale of the hilts. They are the original size as in the game.

that version of jaden looks like mine XD

that version of jaden looks like mine XD

Its the default Jaden? How can it be yours?

I like this fix, but a few hilts, like praetor and sentinel are upside down (but see the base pictures of this mod). Can it be fixed somehow?

They're not upside down. you must have a mod interfering somehow. Maybe a backhand saber mod or something?