Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D05ej8u-gU

I had the idea of doing something very very similar to this, we even had a map made for it XD you can use it if you like. It's best to contact Helena on the JAWA forums.

Good luck, hope you can make it happen

f*** you its not available on anywhere but gamefront in which i'm banned and again cuz i already found it BITCH!

Watch your language and be respectful to other people... I'm sure the people in your home that are responsible for you wouldn't be proud if they saw you talking to someone like that would they?

I'm going to be attempting to contact some of these authors again and hopefully get those people/files here

Comments section is actually quite popular, and I think a review system would be great as long as it was an extra as @@therfiles said, not a requirement before a file went up.

And of course reviews are biased, that's a big part of it they're playing it from the perspective of a first time user based on their own experience rather than a collective experience.

Quite honestly though, this doesn't require anything official or any site changes so any one could write a review and post it in the comments section. This is what @@Caelum aimed for the comments section to be in the first place afterall XD this was discussed at length back then.

A team of critics would be awesome From being a staff on both JKFiles/JKHub, the staff here usually have more work to do and critiquing files properly takes time and effort. Something I applaud JKFiles for, because in my opinion they've had some great reviewers e.g. Nozy, Inyri etc.

Damned if we do, damned if we don't

Since returning to my duties, the amount of posts that have been hidden by staff is actually surprisingly high. We do take great strides to hide/move/split content that isn't relevant to the discussion but we'll always miss some, and that is stuff that other users will see rather than the work we've actually done.

That's how it already is though

Welcome to the hub

Do the staff know about this?

Unless it was reported to someone specific, I've not seen anything come through relating to that.

Looks like #6 is taking it I am a little worried though, isn't it too small compared to the others? 

Except Google doesn't outright ban the content..

Actually they remove illegal content that is picked up by their systems during the upload process, they don't allow copyrighted material to be uploaded without the permission of the copyright holder.

If the video is not detected e.g. if someone raises the pitch on the audio and flips the video,  then it goes live on YouTube for the public to see until the copyright owner raises a complaint to have it removed.

 

YouTube:

If you plan to include copyright-protected material in your video, you will need to seek permission to do so first. YouTube cannot grant you these rights and we are unable to assist you in finding and contacting the parties who may be able to grant them to you. This is something you’ll have to research and handle on your own or with the assistance of a lawyer.

If jkhub allow what you're suggesting @@eezstreet, it means that they're endorsing ported stuff, which is bad right? With the current rules the only ported content is stuff that "hasn't been noticed" by the staff - so jkhub is hopefully protected.

Indeed, in the same way Google handles YouTube content that isn't obviously copyrighted. A complaint is made to Google, Google raise it with the user, user takes action in one way or another, case resolved.

Uploaders won't come to any harm though. Instead of going directly to the uploader, the owner of the original content would submit a request through the staff following the procedures listed on the Rules page, this would then be resolved by JKHub's staff who would be the middle man between the dispute. 

If the content in question is found to be on our website without consent and the owner of the content wishes to have it taken down, then it will. Otherwise it will remain up. This is resolved without having to resort to any potential legal battles (However unlikely it might be that this would happen) where the person in the right always wins. 

Surely this is fair for both sides, is it not? Obviously I'm missing something though XD

Welcome to the hub

Any way, to address your points directly as Circa did as well:

Ported material is okay, so long as the entirety of the project doesn't consist of a port. (Ported model with different texture = okay; a mod consisting entirely of ripped music = bad)

 

If a company submits a claim against JKHub for the offending content, whatever legal penalties are incurred on the uploading party, not on the Hub itself.

 

Remove "Acknowledged Rules" section of download page (Always "yes" so what's the point of telling the downloader this?)

Remove lots of the required readme sections (don't include a template, it just confuses people)

Ported models can go through however if it comes to light from the author of those files never gave you permission and wishes to have it taken down, then it will.

The full responsibility and claim is on the uploader of the content, we work with both sides to ensure we can come to a resolution that suits the person in the right. This is figured out by the providing of evidence from the person making the claim. If it's strong, then that file will be taken down and the uploader will be informed of this.

The Acknowledged Rules needs to stay to ensure that the person agrees they have read the rules we're talking about here. If someone makes a claim to us and the uploader of the file in question says he was ignorant of the rules, then the blame is then put on JKHub for not making these as clear as possible to be aware of. Any one who doesn't see the Rules page, will know one exists before hitting the submit button. The reason it is on the actual download page is to allow the person making the dispute to see that the uploader said he agreed to the rules... the person making the claim will more than likely not know how our website works so they won't know if the uploader had to agree to those rules or not beforehand.

I used to agree with you about the readme removal, but when I thought about it in more detail it became clear that it is a smart thing to do to include one in your file. I've seen game file sites rip content from other websites without the uploaders knowledge... if a site did this to our files (It will eventually happen in all likelihood) then there would be no knowledge of whom it came from... just a pk3 in a zip file. This, again, is to protect the content holder/uploader.

You have to think of this from the view of someone who has never submitted a file before. 

Is there something I'm missing here which is obvious to you/those who liked your post ? I'm honestly curious because I feel this really does cover the problem very well, I've done my best to explain the individual issues you have with this.

... You're kidding, right? The rules were re-written and make it clear that you can upload pretty much anything as long as it is a JK2/JK3 file. So if you uploaded a ported model, it would go through and if the company whose game you ported it from has a dispute against that, they can raise it and request to have it taken down. We can't check every file to ensure that it belongs to uploader. It is up to the uploader to get permission and the responsibility is entirely on them to clear that up.

I don't know how many times I've repeated this. It now does exactly what you state you wanted from the porting discussion whilst giving content owners a clear way to get their content taken down if they wish to do so.

I would like to invite everyone who has shown interest to head on over to this area:

http://jkhub.org/forum/94-ten-years-jedi-academy/

(You'll need to be logged in)

I went with 12, something about it seems very appealing... and besides I much prefer lighter layouts/backgrounds

I can help find who plays instruments in the communities I am a part of

Any news on this ?

By the way, I'll be forming this very soon, it's my priority and I'll be PMing everyone interested privately soon.

I always slightly modify the zip title in order to avoid potentially overwriting duplicate files in Dropbox (It does not warn you before overwriting) to ensure users could always have a link to older versions of a file. I've renamed them back for you.

Truly beautiful, I adore maps of this theme and I adore attention to detail even more. This is really fantastic can'can't wait to see the final product if you do plan to add more.

The name is definitely memorable...*looks through emails*

Ah yeah I emailed you a little over a year ago to see if JKHub could have permission to host your JKA files, but the mail bounced back unfortunately. 

@@Zappa_0 Are these yours?

http://jediknight3.filefront.com/developer/Darth_Zappa;8357

Welcome back to the community and welcome to the hub

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