!IMPORTANT! EFF CLAN IMPERSONATION

[Vulcan]

Good day JKHub, I am Vulcan, representative for the EFF Clan.

 

Please take the time to read the following announcement, especially servers owners and clan leaders.

 

As some of the oldies around here know, the EFF clan was once ruled by our emperor Apophis.
However, in the past 4 years Apophis didn’t give any positive input to our clan, other than demoting and kicking members who didn’t agree that he should be an almighty leader.
Other than that Apophis was a very rare sight on both server and forum, and no one met this guy and only saw him once in a while when he demoted or kicked innocent people from the clan,
saying they were nothing compared to him.
 

Apophis thinks only his opinion matters, and last year our Council told Apophis he should step down as leader and take on an advisor role in the clan.
His power would be taken away so he would not be able to demote and kick members.
The whole council agreed this was a good decision, except Apophis, who wanted to have full power back in the clan.
A few weeks ago, he tried to reclaim his old role again.
 

As you may understand, this is something we can’t do. The council build up the clan in the last 4 years to a very stable and strong community because of great decision making together.
Apophis did not play any part in the community EFF is today, and would have thrown everything away if he gets full power again.
Because the council doesn’t support him, he is taking drastic measures in his way to seek full power.
 

Apophis said that if he can’t take full power in the clan, he will start a new clan and server with wearing EFF tags and banners.

The situation now
 

Apophis promised to make a public announcement on our forum, but has yet to do that.
One of our members recently discovered that Apo made a new gameserver, with bots wearing EFF tags. So he is paving the road for clanmembers before he will inform us.
Making this public announcement helps us being one step ahead.
 

As you understand this can bring harm to the image of our clan, as Apophis is trying to be identified with us.
Apophis is leaving EFF for his new EFF. We are doing our best to spread the word around the JKA community, and we felt JKHub is a good way to go.
No one of us is going to join him in his new clan, as you may understand. Thus the first few weeks it will only be him.

Regarding non-EFFers
 

Apophis will probably advertise when he comes on your server.
It can be wise to ban him on sight, so he doesn’t take any of your potential recruits.
In case you see someone wearing EFF tags, please look that name up on this page:
 

http://www.eff-clan.org/wiki/roster.php
 

We keep good track of our members, and if someone wearing EFF tags does not appear on that list, he is impersonating us, and thus no part of us.
Feel free to inform him about the clan he just joined and tell him to check www.eff-clan.org for more information. 
 

It would be a great help if Apophis’ movement is stopped by your help, as long as Apophis is walking around with our tags and name.
Would he decide to rename his movement he is free to do what he wants. But that is probably not going to happen soon.

 

 

What to do against his movement is for clanleaders and serverowners to decide. But the best help is informing everyone about our situation, being in your clan or on your server.
Banning the non-EFFers can help not to make this epidemic grow larger.

It is expected for this situation to be temporary because Apophis has not been active for years at a time. There is a high possibility that he will become inactive again, what would mean the end for that movement. 
How long it will take is yet to be discovered, until then please be advised.

 

Do you need more information about this matter, please PM me, Morabis or Val from EFF on our forum: www.eff-clan.org

[Futuza]

Such drama.  Wow.  Very heartbreaking.

[Apprentice]

What is to say that it isn't the other way around ??

[Vulcan]

To put it in perspective, here's an metaphor.
You are in art class, and get a canvas from your teacher. He states that your brush and paint would work best on that type of canvas, so you start working on it.
Your fellow students also got a canvas from your teacher, with the same message.
The teacher tells you and the students he will be very busy the next few months, and will not attend the classes.
You and the other students decide to learn from each other. You practice and with shared knowledge you all are able to complete a few masterpieces.
Then, after a few months your teacher comes back claims these paintings as his own, puts his signature under the paintings he likes best, and puts them on the internet so he can sell them for a large sum.
Exact same thing is going on with EFF, but with a far greater timespan

Anyway, you get the point.
Apophis only gave the community a foundation, that the council, and all other members has built on it.
He is now claiming everything as only his own, while we made the clan ours.
90 percent of EFF is currently the system that was build by all members. The 10 percent was built by the people from 4 years ago, 4 percent of that made up by Apophis.


It is indeed a matter of perspective, and you could say we betrayed him.
But if so, isn't it justified, because we are simply protecting the thing that we all have worked very hard on for years? 

[Mog]

To put it in perspective, here's an metaphor.

You are in art class, and get a canvas from your teacher. He states that your brush and paint would work best on that type of canvas, so you start working on it.

Your fellow students also got a canvas from your teacher, with the same message.

The teacher tells you and the students he will be very busy the next few months, and will not attend the classes.

You and the other students decide to learn from each other. You practice and with shared knowledge you all are able to complete a few masterpieces.

Then, after a few months your teacher comes back claims these paintings as his own, puts his signature under the paintings he likes best, and puts them on the internet so he can sell them for a large sum.

Exact same thing is going on with EFF, but with a far greater timespan

 

Anyway, you get the point.

Apophis only gave the community a foundation, that the council, and all other members has built on it.

He is now claiming everything as only his own, while we made the clan ours.

90 percent of EFF is currently the system that was build by all members. The 10 percent was built by the people from 4 years ago, 4 percent of that made up by Apophis.

 

 

It is indeed a matter of perspective, and you could say we betrayed him.

But if so, isn't it justified, because we are simply protecting the thing that we all have worked very hard on for years? 

 

This website is for the development of mods and general JKA discussion that does not involve clan nonsense. This is clan nonsense.

[CaptainCrazy]

All this because of a game? lol.

[Circa]

This website is for the development of mods and general JKA discussion that does not involve clan nonsense. This is clan nonsense.

Clan related stuff is totally fine for this forum. Though nonsense would be better suited for the nonsense section.

 

But I'm moving this to the JK general discussion, as it's still in the wrong section.

[Morabis]

Ok Vulcan pushed it too dramatic. Situation is easy. We just don't want jka players to be confused that which is the original EFF server/site/community. An this one is not clan nonsense

EFF server: jka.eff-clan.org
Fake eff server: 46.165.203.234:23034

Also I think this whole stuff just posted in the wrong section. So please move it to the right place if I may ask. 

[Omicron]

This website is for the development of mods and general JKA discussion that does not involve clan nonsense. This is clan nonsense.

So because he's writing a post that concerns him and the rest of the clan quite greatly, he's not allowed to post it here, because it is "clan nonsense"?

[CaptainCrazy]

Well it feels more like the dispute has been brought to this forum from their forum I guess.

[Circa]

Guys, all they are doing is letting us know that EFF is being impersonated. There's nothing wrong with that at all.

 

Let's all be a little more welcoming, shall we? Clans are a huge part of this community, no need to drive them out when they actually post something.

[Bacon]

A player impersonating other players (clan) what else is new? With how JKA is anyone can say they are that one person. Nothing new here.

[Futuza]

I am eezstreet.  *waves hand*

[Apprentice]

I am eezstreet.  *waves hand*

And I am your master ... and also the alpha and the omega and your supreme being and whatever, whatever yadidadida blabla bla and the likes . . . :P

[Omicron]

And I am your master ... and also the alpha and the omega and your supreme being and whatever, whatever yadidadida blabla bla and the likes . . . :P

You didn't wave your hand

[Apprentice]

You didn't wave your hand

 

B)

[Mog]

Guys, all they are doing is letting us know that EFF is being impersonated. There's nothing wrong with that at all.

 

Let's all be a little more welcoming, shall we? Clans are a huge part of this community, no need to drive them out when they actually post something.

 

Fair enough, but in all honesty; impersonations happens all the time in JKA. Giving it attention to the point that's beyond just the simple "I have an impostor" post kinda gets annoying.

[Ruxith]

It's more than just "an imposter" when it's the clan's ex-leader trying to re-create the clan with his own server and forum because the current members rejected him. This isn't just one of those "oh hi i'm actually a member of your clan lulz" he's actually trying to make his own clan, impersonating theirs.

 

Just take the acknowledgement and thank them, there's no need to be so hostile about a clan giving others in the JKA community a friendly warning about someone xD

[Circa]

Closing topic via request of the original poster. Cleaned it up as well. I'm disappointed that a friendly warning to the JKA community turned into a debate about morals. Go make a thread in nonsense if you must.