Teancum

Thought I'd give a general update on where we are. It's kind of hard to see what stage we're at when I'm always bouncing around with different things. So listed below is basically everything needed after the last release.
 
MODELS

• Jeron Fusion Cutter - 30%
  • Using the cancelled Battlefront III model. Model is obviously complete, but has not been converted
• Mortar Gun - 90%
  • Original model is complete. Some users have suggested using JK Galaxies' weapon. Since I haven't checked with the JK Galaxies staff to even see if that's possible, we'll call this 90%
• Assault Cannon - 0%
  • The DF team's model is giant and clunky, and clips weird in widescreen ratios. This one will need a full remodel.
• Phase II Dark Trooper - 100%
  • @@Jeff converted the Empire at War: Forces of Corruption model, then added the Jet Trooper's legs. He then adjusted the texture color. Model-wise it's perfect!
• Phase III Dark Trooper - 100%
  • Converted from the cancelled Battlefront III game by @@Jeff. Looks great!
• Kyle model(s) - 90%
  • Need the DF Kyle kitbashed as an alternate head for the JO model, and vice versa
• General Mohc - 30%
  • HapSlash's original model was found, but it needs rigging, caps, and whatever else people who rig models might think it needs. Technically speaking it's a cutscene-only model, but others might want to use the model in multiplayer, thus the 30%. As far as "official" mod status it only needs rigged, so I'll call it 75% as far as that's concerned.
• Jan Ors (Dark Forces) - 100%
  • Completed by the amazing @@Jeff
• Moff Rebus - 30%
  • A decent placeholder is used in a reskinned Rax Joris, but something unique would be cool
• Crix Madine (prisoner) - 50%
  • The regular prisoner model would be fine aside from the head. For the head Luke's head model could be flipped on the X axis, making the hair flow in the opposite direction. From there we just add a bearded face that isn't Luke's and we've got a decent Crix analog. Although Crix would not have facial hair as a recently jailed Imperial officer, so maybe clean shaven? That's how they depict him in Dark Forces.

MAPS

• Level 7 - Ramsees Hed - 65%
  • Needs scripting, AI waypoints, detail work and optimizations
• Level 8 - Robotics Facility - 60%
  • Needs exterior details, AI wapoints and optimizations
• Level 9 - Nar Shaddaa - 60%
  • Level needs finished, but what's there is 100% complete (AI, scripting, etc)
• Level 10 - Jabba's Ship - 50%
  • Level needs finished, but what's there is mostly complete (AI, scripting, etc)
• Level 11 - Imperial City - 5%
  • Nothing is there except the initial landing zone
• Level 12 - Fueling Station - 15%
  • About 25% of the geometry is done, but the center "wheel" of the station is askew, so much of this will have to be remodeled.
• Level 13 - The Executor - 75%
  • 95% of the level is complete. Only a few optimizations are needed. But there are no enemies, and no scripting has been done
• Level 14 - The Arc Hammer -   2%  
  • We have a single room, the pod that you ride over in from the Executor, so not even 10% complete

CODE AND SCRIPTING

• Engine - 80%
  • Weapons need to be coded as separate from JO/JA weapons the player uses. The Fusion Cutter will be WP_JAWA, the Mortar Gun WP_RAPID_CONCUSSION, and the Assault Cannon as a new WP_
  • AI code for Dark Troopers needs updated and improved
• Interface - 80%
  • Improvements needed for Kyle customization

 

 

Also here are some Executor screenshots, because why not?

 

Yes, that's correct. It wouldn't matter if it was a port in that case either. If you try to release a part of a mod without permission on JKHub, we're going to have problems.

Thanks. I don't understand why people can't learn to go through the proper channels. Even when people throw out the "It's all property of Disney anyway" line they're just using it as an excuse. It's about respect for the fact that others worked really hard on their content. We all realize we hold no copyright claim, but we put hours and hours into our work and don't want our thunder stolen from us.

 

There's more to it than that, obviously, but I like your policies. We run similar policies at Gametoast.

As long as what is uploaded is not the whole model and nothing else, you are fine. If you were to upload the Darktrooper model here, it would be denied. If you were to include it as part of the Dark Forces mod and upload the Dark Forces mod, that mod would be fine.

So to clarify -- as a small part of a much larger whole. Makes sense as that basically is the same as US Fair Use Copyright Law.

@@DEVISS -- unfortunately like at Gametoast this is from a newer game without the EULA that allows porting. They won't allow this file here, either.

It's funny that JO's menus were great on consoles, because JA's Xbox menus looked like a 12 year old did them. They were very lazy ports of the menu structures with just stars behind it.

 

#sorryForThreadDerailing

I might be misunderstanding whether the updated EULAs play into this. I have a Phase II Dark Trooper from Empire At War and a Phase III from the cancelled Battlefront III. Both are part of the Dark Forces mod, and both have been properly credited to the original developers/Disney Interactive. Should I refrain from uploading here?

The original game publishers probably have a different view on the matter in their EULA. That's what you should base your "legality" on.

 

SOURCE

 

 

So you're still free to do as you please, but in terms of legality it's not

To be fair, the EULA has been updated. See http://store.steampowered.com/app/32430/

Also got an updated version of the Executor. Man, major leaps in progress have been made by getting these source files!

Ah -- I don't think you can hide in a specific view only.

Yep. Click VIEW --> FILTER. From there you can hide specific types of things. Each type type also has a shortcut command listed there.

Just got several map sources from @@hhunter6 -- most of them are the same as what I have or close to it. Some just have fixes and optimizations, but Nar Shaddaa is really far along. That'll help immensely. Posting screenies. No enemies cuz I done killed them all before thinking about taking screenshots. I'd say the geometry is only about 60-70% done, but what's there is totally complete, including finishing work. All the enemies have waypoints, lights are in place, finishing brush work, etc.

well, thats good to hear , and have you already shared the map? i wondered that because you gave the framerate warning

I haven't, but you can see the FPS in the corner of the screenshots.

what framerate? because the map crashes for me everytime with the 2nd backup , and this is on a fresh 2nd build backup, as well as replacing all dlls, i don't wish to bug report, but do you know anything about this @@Teancum?

This isn't the same map. I completely scrapped the exterior of that version because of the crashing, which is also why I needed the break. After starting the outside over again I think it looks much better. The outside walls look closer to the original (might still swap textures) and I like the way the ice canyon walls surround it.

IMAGE DUMP TIME!

Still VERY work in progress, but this is an improvement over the old version, yes?

**Ignore the framerate. I haven't done a -vis pass yet, so that will improve.

There's a quite good reskin of Qui-Gon Jinn as Cin Drallig here: http://mrwonko.de/jk3files/Jedi%20Academy/Skins/Star%20Wars/60286/

No idea where you'd find a Jocasta Nu model.

thanks. I know I am pretty grumpy but I do appreciate your help. I just become so frustrated recently that I need to take time away.

Posting another backup. Again, please remember this isn't a beta or anything like that. It has everything up until I started having troubles. I think it's dated May 25. It doesn't include the new Dark Troopers or Jan that I know of. Just posting on the web so I have an alternate backup. I need to take another break as my maps build fine but they won't load in-game, staying at roughly 1/3 loaded and then eating a ton of CPU cycles and memory indefinitely.

 

Again -- NOT A BETA. It's just an online backup that other people can play around with. DO NOT REPORT BUGS

 

https://www.mediafire.com/?83cch9nn3n3aqyw

So given the progress I lost in my maps -- a few days -- I decided just to go ahead and totally rework the Robotics Facility outside. While I haven't tested it in-game yet I can say it looks so much better, and much more true to the original. Pics to come once I have it in game and lit properly.

I always took it as the shirt he's wearing in JK. We can't really see his right shoulder, so who knows exactly.

Lost a few days work being a little too hasty with the delete key. Good thing I have network drives. I have set all my DF folders to backup onto the network drive around 1AM each morning while I sleep. Now I can have it backed up without the headache of using some online subversion system.

Thanks, but as I said above I'm not going to add it unless it has proper icons -- not just repeats of the head. It needs to look like the species customization (proper icons for head/torsos/legs) for me to bother adding it. That's the part that's more time consuming. The skin text files are super easy.

Just be sure to give it proper icons like the default game. I don't really have time to do extra ones on my own.

Thanks @@Ramikad - that was it. Here's an example from doomgiver.shader for anyone else who wants to see.

textures/doomgiver/forcefield
{
	qer_editorimage	textures/doomgiver/energything.tga
	surfaceparm	nomarks
	surfaceparm	nonsolid
	surfaceparm	playerclip
	surfaceparm	shotclip
	surfaceparm	forcefield
	surfaceparm	trans
	q3map_nolightmap
    {
        map textures/doomgiver/energything2
        blendFunc GL_ONE GL_ONE
        rgbGen wave sin 0.65 0.35 0 0.2
        tcMod scroll -1 2
    }
    {
        map textures/doomgiver/energything2
        blendFunc GL_ONE GL_ONE
        tcMod scroll 2 1
    }
}

I suppose so, but I don't have much in the way of customization to work from. It looks like just four skins. I suppose if people wanted to do the white Imperial Security Bureau uniform that might be one more.

 

Hmmm.... I tell you what. If someone makes that model a "species" that you can customize for regular JA -- complete with proper icons, I'll add it to the mod.

All of those are included with JO Kyle -- any alternate JK/JO/JA skin I can get permission for that's quality I plan to add. I was toying with the idea of adding tint back as well. That way DF Kyle can have his jacket tinted to a handful of colors and the different torso choice would be for the shirt/armor he is wearing underneath. For JO Kyle it would probably be the shoulder pauldron. If I do that I'm going to put the team color JK Kyle outfits as a separate model so they can have different tints from regular JO. Space is at a premium so I can't add a ton of them:

 

**IF** I add tints, here's the color scheme for them:

• DF Kyle's Jacket, JO Kyle's shoulder pauldron: Grey, Black, Light Brown, Dark Brown, Red, Blue
• "Team" JK Kyle, some of the multiplayer JK Kyle clones like Rugar: Red, Blue, Gold, Green, Orange, Purple