Multiply is the layer I use yes. I made a new layer above the OG skin and painted the red on it for Fox. Never used HSL for JK. I use it alllll the time for NBA 2K14 but that's a completely different beast lol. I'll experiment with that a bit more, thank you for the tip btw. Will come in handy. And yes it's the same shocktrooper but it was my take on it. I needed another skin. I kind of make everything so my apologies if I step on your toes. EDIT: If I think about it though Fox is one of the most undamaged clones in the entire CW series so honestly might damage him a bit but not much.