Daedra Posted August 7, 2015 Author Posted August 7, 2015 I never believed that in the first place. Lets say for example you heard that from multiple people about the Staff cutting off the leg (and you haven't seen the movie to know how it handles), of course you could believe it or not, it is pure speculation, but lets say you did believe it (as example). It comes to the moment you see the movie and see how effective the Staff is, changing your view on it. I'm not trying to alter your opinion, all I am saying is that the movie has a great way of debunking speculation, regardless of which side of the arguement is believed.
hleV Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 I didn't believe it because it didn't make sense to believe it. A staff is a staff. There is quite a lot of space for the user to be effective and not get cut. An all-cutting blade looking to cut your wrist off if you put your saber at a slightly wrong angle is something else entirely. It is less effective than normal saber.
Daedra Posted August 7, 2015 Author Posted August 7, 2015 The laser (emm blade?) o the lighstaber couldnt be in the shape of the medieval sword... so they made two little lightsaber parts with two mini blades that like many people say.. They can be cut in the easy way. It is true but still it looks pretty cool and nobody thought that it will be good idea (because.. still many people said that it isnt XD) And saber staff is very effective D: In JK it is not in the way it should be.. but Maul for example used it very well I agree. The Staff was very effective and changed alot of peoples view on such an absurd design (prior to movie release opinion). Now it has been perfectly integrated into the Expanded Universe. It will be the same development for the Crossguard Saber. But of course, opinions will be opinions. But in 10 years time we will probably have a full knowledge of the Crossguard Saber as we do with the Saber Staff and will be just as enjoyed.I didn't believe it because it didn't make sense to believe it. A staff is a staff. There is quite a lot of space for the user to be effective and not get cut. An all-cutting blade looking to cut your wrist off if you put your saber at a slightly wrong angle is something else entirely. It is less effective than normal saber. I think being able to avoid having your hand cut off is very effective. And IF the mini blades get cut off then it will be a regular Saber which is what you would prefer, right? Win - win.
minilogoguy18 Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 Yeah, it wouldn't stop anyone from taking your hand or destroying one of the emitters. The staff although not as versatile as the single it has good prarry and counter attack potential, to someone smart though the other blade would never pose a threat since all you'd need to do is know where one blade is to predict the other.
hleV Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 I think being able to avoid having your hand cut off is very effective. And IF the mini blades get cut off then it will be a regular Saber which is what you would prefer, right? Win - win.Being able to avoid anything is in no way effective. Having to avoid it is restrictive, whereas normal saber does not pose such problem. Staff for instance, while possibly harder to master, can be effectively used against multiple opponents, so the disadvantages/difficulties are worth it. Crossguard saber? Not so much. If the mini blades get cut off then there's no point for their existence in the first place. If they restrict you then it's also better for them to not be there.
Ramikad Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 There's also the possibility that this particular design might involve some lore reasons beyond the hilt guard aspect.
Daedra Posted August 7, 2015 Author Posted August 7, 2015 Being able to avoid anything is in no way effective. Having to avoid it is restrictive, whereas normal saber does not pose such problem. Staff for instance, while possibly harder to master, can be effectively used against multiple opponents, so the disadvantages/difficulties are worth it. Crossguard saber? Not so much. If the mini blades get cut off then there's no point for their existence in the first place. If they restrict you then it's also better for them to not be there. But that is assuming that they are made to be cut off or not. Perhaps they cannot be cut off? Lets see how the movie makes that work.
Daedra Posted August 7, 2015 Author Posted August 7, 2015 Anyway, is anyone going to pick this one up? Taking this one up myself with help. Jolly likes this
Tempust85 Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 For all we know, it's some ancient sith saber sword that has special meaning. I'd say don't knock the saber until we know why it looks how it does. Could be something that makes alot of sense. EDIT: I dunno, it just seems logical that I pick this up after my Maul model. No idea when I'll get around to it though, and it would only have textures for rend2. Ramikad likes this
Jolly Posted August 8, 2015 Posted August 8, 2015 It's nice @ is making a new Kylo skin but honestly if @@DT85 makes this model (which honestly, considering Kylo's role in the new movies, he needs) that would be best. Though I am not saying a reskin should not happen, it would be amazing to see it and well any new Star Wars 7 content is a great contribution to the JKA modding community.
Daedra Posted August 8, 2015 Author Posted August 8, 2015 For all we know, it's some ancient sith saber sword that has special meaning. I'd say don't knock the saber until we know why it looks how it does. Could be something that makes alot of sense. EDIT: I dunno, it just seems logical that I pick this up after my Maul model. No idea when I'll get around to it though, and it would only have textures for rend2. I would appreciate your effort if you did that sometime in the future, but I will just be making a Frankenstein and Reskin for Kylo. But you, you have the talent to make an entirely new model, which of course takes longer to do. But there's a chance I may require your help with the version of Kylo i'm working on, but that may be in the near future. (If you can, of course).
Daedra Posted August 8, 2015 Author Posted August 8, 2015 Haven't frankensteined the model yet but I was messing with textures.. Truly magical how a simple texture edit can transform something. I'll keep working on it. hleV, Jeff, Delmi and 7 others like this
AshuraDX Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 For all we know, it's some ancient sith saber sword that has special meaning. I'd say don't knock the saber until we know why it looks how it does. Could be something that makes alot of sense. EDIT: I dunno, it just seems logical that I pick this up after my Maul model. No idea when I'll get around to it though, and it would only have textures for rend2.I'll gladly to a covnersion from rend2 to base JKA if you need me toall I'll need are your bakes and the model in .obj
Daedra Posted August 9, 2015 Author Posted August 9, 2015 I'll gladly to a covnersion from rend2 to base JKA if you need me toall I'll need are your bakes and the model in .obj I'm going to release a robed Kylo. DT will work on the movie version when he has time. Jolly likes this
Jolly Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 @ Sounds like a good idea my friend, but I think some work could be done on the robed model to make it look a bit more personal to Kylo then just another sith robe
Daedra Posted August 10, 2015 Author Posted August 10, 2015 @ Sounds like a good idea my friend, but I think some work could be done on the robed model to make it look a bit more personal to Kylo then just another sith robe I may get in touch about that at some point
Omega Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 I wonder if it's possible to blend Darth Vaders helmet with the front of the helmet with a flat mask look to create Kylo Rens helmet, have like a hooded version and a non hooded version. Just an idea, anyway I think this Kylo Ren guy is going to be the new ultimate darksider in the new movie! Daedra likes this
Daedra Posted August 10, 2015 Author Posted August 10, 2015 I wonder if it's possible to blend Darth Vaders helmet with the front of the helmet with a flat mask look to create Kylo Rens helmet, have like a hooded version and a non hooded version. Just an idea, anyway I think this Kylo Ren guy is going to be the new ultimate darksider in the new movie! I already have a GLM model of Kylo's mask Omega likes this
Daedra Posted August 11, 2015 Author Posted August 11, 2015 @ care to show it off ? Once I have an update I will post it Which just so happens to be now lol Srethem, Omega, Delmi and 2 others like this
Langerd Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Once I have an update I will post it Which just so happens to be now lol The mask is nice but i think it is too High poly Daedra likes this
Omega Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 I'm liking the work! Good job and keep it up! Looking forward to seeing this in game!
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