Dear JKHUB, Please don't ban me for this post I am about to make Linken233 I used to be a diehard KOTF fan, but after the disappointment of part 1, not to mention it being 4 years after it, I've pretty much lost all the hope I have. I might download it just out of curiousity, but after that, I'm done, but I probably should defend Tim on somethings he did. This is me speaking from my years of gaming experience (and college as I am majoring in Computer Science). Copying the main assets: He had to do that for the sake of doing the startup menu, no other mod has that, not to mention its an EXPANSION pack, not an official one, but still is an Expansion. Like official expansion packs for legit games (Empire at War, Age of Empires) The game needs the original code and then has to build up from it. Using other peoples work: Alright, during the glory days of when part 1 was released, a lot of people (including myself) asked Tim if he really had used other peoples work without permission, he said he didn't and had asked all modders. Even if he hadn't, I checked some of the mods, mostly skins, I know of that were used in KOTF, NONE of them said "You may not use these mods without my permission". Tim did give proper credit where it was due. Had he made all the maps from scratch, the mod would have taken SO much longer to make, even with half of the features it has. Some of the other stuff he did (such as charge $100 for the DVD) is unacceptable and he should have been ashamed of that, the game after all was not his own creation, if I ever made a mod as big as that (and I sort of am in the process, shhh), I would never charge money, making a game modification for personal profit is illegal, as I'm sure it would be considered "soliciting money off the internet". In conclusion, I don't support KOTF anymore, I might download it IF it gets good feedback (or maybe just for the star wars saga missions). I tried time and time again to renew my faith, but I just have no hope anymore. Please don't ban me for the Hub for this.