No. We want him to share a fair portion of the contribution, and learn a bit about what he's talking about that way he knows the possibilities and general criteria of this game's engine. I asked him to learn the basics. There is not 1 wrong or useless basics tutorial out there. I just searched youtube for "gmax tutorial" and every single one that said "basics" would have worked. Hardly a needle in a haystack. You need no extra knowledge to model hilts in this game. You only need the basics of how to navigate and create shapes. You're not learning to "mod in jka" you are simply learning how to drop a shape onto the canvas and spin the camera around it. As I explained, anything particular to THIS game engine, we can help with. Tags, power of 2 texturing, etc. Those parts I said we would help with. The simple task of knowing the UI and how to move the camera and drop shapes in gmax can be learned in 5 minutes! 5 measly minutes that would help you and us. Compared to our weeks worth of work helping you. Good thing you researched I'm not sorry. I'm thankful. Usually someone waits until we do half the work for them to abandon the mod and leave everybody feeling like idiots for helping him. I feel if you give up now, you would have given up later if we would have helped when we finished our stuff and all the weight was on you to finish yours. A 5 minute tutorial is wayyy too much work compared to the weeks of work we'd be helping you with for it. At least you gave up in the beginning. You asked us for weeks of work and we asked you to watch a SINGLE video on youtube for us. I understand how frustrated you are and shame on us for asking you to help us help you. @@Prometheus you said you didnt want to step over any boundaries, then implied that we're all pompous and greedy with your tone. Ahhh kindergarten.. anyone remember kindergarten? Where we could cry if we didnt get things handed to us exactly in the fashion we requested? And we didnt have to lift a finger to get it? This entire thread now is chalked full of milk and cookies and needs a nap. We were ALL willing to help you! and we're all busy people with RL obligations. We simply requested you learn the basics. And you gave up. Not the first time. Funniest part of it all is if you would have done what I asked... you'd have 2 hilts done. Go learn the basics and we'll help you. Once you leaarn the basics you'll have a better understanding of what to ask for, what you need, and how you can contribute. Don't get discouraged just watch the fuckin video! lmao I had to watch "Gone with the Wind" in like 8th grade and it was like 8 hours long so I don't wanna hear it XD @@Prometheus to give you a better understanding of where i'm coming from, think about this... I've been modding for jka maybe 6 years now... in that time, I've seen maybe 2 people a week do something like this. Maybe one a week. Still... and I have helped TONS of mod projects that went stale because the original author didn't know how to do anything but request. I personally have maybe 100 models that never went into the projects because of this exact problem. Fool me once, shame on u... fool me 100 models and 6 years later? lmfao no thanks. Bring something to the table first to calm our nerves a bit. Just my 2 cents *JKHub claims no responsibility for the emotional damaging views of ChalklYne*