CrimsonStrife

What software are you in again?

I feel like it is this angle you are either working at, or rendering at, that is causing many of the issues. Makes it hard to tell scale and perspective. The face seems to be too small for the head...or there is simply too much head...however you want to look at it.

In fairness, I actually made that back BEFORE the game was released, so I was going off very vague artwork and trailers. An attitude like that won't garner you much welcome from the modelers here, specifically the character modelers. There are already very few, as most of us have retired, or moved on to other things. If you have any actually constructive criticism, I suggest you direct it (albeit politely), where it is needed.

I wasn't, I was a moderator, there is a difference. I banned Ory'Hara because when accused of being disrespectful through his nonsense speak, he decided to attack me directly. Even at that point, I still gave him the option to clarify himself and work with me to resolve it, at which point hostility continued. So I locked the threads and banned him. And I took action to enforce the ban. That isn't being a douche, it's being a moderator. I always gave members the option to challenge my judgment or work with me to resolve an issue, which is why only one Ban has ever been carried out. BUT I also didn't take any crap, if you couldn't be civil and work with me, then you were gone. I was harsh, but fair. And that's really how moderation should be done.

I was responsible for the banning of Ory'Hara after he was blatantly disrespectful, and then refused to work with me to resolve a rather silly issue, and I have no idea how he was finally allowed back in. IN FACT, for a long time, Caelum and I watched for him to make new accounts and would ban them as well. I was probably one of the harsher of the moderators, and I got a lot of flak for it. I distinctly recall there being a huge stink mostly from Ory'Hara himself, when he was banned. I actually wanted to take moderation far more seriously than most of the other staff (there was a brief stint in my early days where I kept trying to moderate the nonsense forum), because frankly, I was not in it to make friends. I had a "job" to do. But when it comes down to it, @@Circa has a point, often times it is just a lack of online staff that delay a moderation, and unless you report something we (or rather now, "they") may or may not see it. IN FACT, I can think of numerous times that @@Circa has relocated nonsense threads, hidden them, or trimmed derailed ones. But seriously kiddies, keep nonsense in the nonsense forum, where it belongs. I don't expect to. Not only did she retire from modding, but she not so long ago had some personal issues arise, that I suspect have had major changes to her life. Heck, I barely hear from her at all anymore.

What did I do this time, and why am I being summoned?

Watch yourself, less you start another conspiracy.

The former staff in me wants to fix your images so they embed rather than link. @@Circa, get on it. Looks good though.

I didn't read enough to see if this has been decided against, but I can tell you from using that plugin first hand, that it is incredibly broken. Firstly, it doesn't register tutorials or wiki's, so you would have to manually monitor each user and give them the award by hand. Also, the system is not capable of grandfathering in anything, so if you have users who already met your file submission numbers, you would have to go back and give them the awards manually. Also, there really doesn't appear to be any active updates or useful support for it anymore either. I've looked and to my knowledge, this is the best "awards" system for IP.Board, and it is not really worth the money.

I suspect because, since porting the content (even though they aren't distributing it, they have openly admitted it is ported) is a violation of both companies EULA, it is thereby not technically a legal activity and JKHub doesn't really want to be associated within anything in a legal gray area.

Sure, they can do what they want...none of us can physically stop them anyway...but that doesn't change facts:

Technically? Well, the wallpapers obviously would have been distributed for anyone to use on their systems by the respective companies, as you can get those same ones off the SWTOR site. But I know that the sounds didn't come from there, so they were either pulled from the game or another one and redistributed (which I'm sure breaks it's EULA, as it usually will), or they are movie sounds and the like, or from that sound board, which are covered by copyrights, but in the case of that sound board there isn't anything saying what you can do with it (but I also notice a distinct lack of a "download" feature, which has me inclined to think you aren't supposed to do that). Some would say that since they don't appear to say you CAN'T, then that means you CAN, but that's kinda the same as claiming that shoplifting is only illegal if you're caught. The fact of the matter is, anytime you use and distribute someone else's copyrighted IP, even under completely hand made stuff (I.E. a wallpaper YOU made from a drawing YOU made, but it is of say, Boba Fett), you are still using a copyrighted IP. Which means, you could be sued, though that likely wouldn't be the first step taken anyway, it would probably be a cease and desist order. Because Boba Fett would be the IP used, and just the "intellectual" form of Boba Fett is owned by Disney or whomever. Now, how likely is someone to pursue that? Well in the case of a big corporate entity, not likely so long as you are not either profiting or competing with something THEY are trying to release. But they own the IP, so they have the legal right to do that. Copyrights are a heartless bitch, because when it comes down to something big, and multimedia, like Star Wars. Everything is going to be copyrighted, but it isn't just going to be copyrighted under a blanket set of rules. Character names can be copyrighted one way, while the character designs can be another, and even phrases, terms and dialog can have certain rules. Then the branding as a whole is copyrighted a certain way. So everything has limits to where and how it can be used, and they won't all be the same. So essentially, anytime you're making anything Star Wars (even an original character or storyline), and you use the Star Wars branding, then you are putting yourself at a risk. Now somethings fall under fair-use, but these are often super-vaguely defined, and even straying slightly from what they say is fair-use can land you in a stink. Now, how hard would they pursue any of that? Well again, it would really come down to money and how it affects them. So, would you get in trouble? Very doubtful. But can you? Yes, probably.

Thing is, I see no where on the site that is says you can use them for that.

Relevant: http://jkhub.org/topic/3239-porting-discussion/?p=44029 Regardless of that it is being used for, the content is being ported, which is a violation of the EULAs on both the LA/Raven/Disney side, and the Epic Games side. Also, while technically under "artistic license" and "fair-use", Machinima still uses the Star Wars IP, and branding, so you could be shut down entirely on that basis alone. Especially considering Disney has the new Star Wars film in the works and actually canceled the 3D theatre releases of the remaining films in preparation. See Also: that linked thread, I point out that Disney has a history of being very tight-fisted with their IP, so if word got out on this, yes it would probably see a C&D order.

There also may have been a mistranslation from the steam chat to the shortened "points".

I only referred specifically to the action of porting between JK2 and JKA, and that there "shouldn't" be an issue, and logically there wouldn't be as it all belongs to the same people. But this only supports the point to read the EULA to anything you're planning to port to or from.

I was entirely planning to sit by and watch how this plays out, as I am retired and don't rightly give a rat's ass what the policies do. But @@Circa dragged me into this. As much as I hate to say it, Ory is kind of correct here. Here is more or less what I told Circa: TL:DR Now that Disney owns all of the Star Wars IP, and they have a history of being tight-fisted with their IPs, we can actually assume that all modding is officially a gray area until they take a stance, because it would be entirely within their legal right to change it. Porting between JKA and JK2: perfectly fine, both are owned and licensed by the same groups and approved for modding,so there should be no conflicts. It is important to define the "legality" here, officially, none of this is "illegal", you won't have cops banging down your door or hauling you off to jail, as this would not be a criminal case, but a civil or even corporate one. I.E. porting to or from anything other than JKA and JK2 would likely be a violation of both the Raven and LA EULA and ToS, and would almost be guaranteed as a violation of the other groups EULA and ToS. As such, you could be sued into oblivion. I wouldn't be worried about LA, but rather whomever owns the IP to what you're porting. ALL assets, are covered under a blanket clause, it ALL belongs to the IP holder, so if you ARE choosing a stance, it would need to be an ALL or NOTHING stance. The first wouldn't be "illegal" per se, but would be at risk of violating EULAs and ToSs but it would be fair, while the latter would be really limiting on mods, but also fair. TL:DR (again): This whole thing is ridiculous. True, and I doubt the staff is going to bend over backwards to appease people who take that ultimatum.

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There are certain existing English speaking members who shall remain nameless *Ory'Hara* that are nigh on impossible to understand anyway...so we should have no problems understanding you.