BUG: Light deforms Anakin´s face!

[Tompa9]

Hello fellow modders,

 

I am asking for help with one glitch and it is really neccesary for me to solve that. My EP2 Anakin model has head created by Kevin Coyle (Anakin model created sometime in 2003). It looks decent and I have even reskinned it to look like proper Hayden Christensen but unfortunately when the light falls on that face it looks completely different and very ugly. I know other model´s faces also change a little bit in shadow/light but that is different case. This is really too much so Im asking community to help me. Thank you!

 

In Modview

In the light (ugly and weird)!

And in the shadow

[AshuraDX]

Looks like something is off about the vertrx normals, or the model may just have unfortunate topology

[Tompa9]

Looks like something is off about the vertrx normals, or the model may just have unfortunate topology

Do you know how to fix that please?

[AshuraDX]

@@Tompa9 I'd have to take a closer look at the model to say that. It may require extensive remodeling to fix.

[Tempust85]

If I remember, it's quite a low poly face mesh. Custom normals could help somewhat.

[Tompa9]

@@Tompa9 I'd have to take a closer look at the model to say that. It may require extensive remodeling to fix.

 

https://mega.nz/#!kFdm0Bib!RBxXk_-iDgNzR6tZ209R7UgG6wCHh4VloK5QadoEf-8

 

There is link for anybody who wants closer look. Thanks

[Corto]

Looks like it can be fixed using a normal editor. Maybe using a weighted normals plugin in 3dsmax, Blender or Maya could do the trick. Sometimes the topology is almost perfect smooth and the model could still look fucked up because of bad normals.

[AshuraDX]

@@Tompa9 I have taken a look, with that topology it's unlikely that you'll get anywhere with just editing the vertex normals in blender.

this model has seen some unlucky triangulation alongside the unoptimal edgeflow.

fixing this model would require a major redirection of the edgeflow and therefore essentially a partial remodel.

 

 

without the wireframe overlay :

 

the ears and a few toher spots also have very funky edgeflow/topology.

I'd really not use this mesh.

[Circa]

Heh. Good ol' JK2-era models. The face texture is what made that model great.

[Corto]

You are right. That edge flow is very poor. It's better to clean it up first. No big deal, but there´s not magic solution.

[Tompa9]

Oh very bad news I have also tried this face texture on HS´s head, which is better modelled but still it doenst look like Hayden .

 

 

see the difference....

[Wasa]

Why not just use Toshi's head and texture it into younger Hayden?

[Tompa9]

Why not just use Toshi's head and texture it into younger Hayden?

It isn´t possible. His face differs too much. With shape and so on. Dont fit short hair

[AshuraDX]

So @@Tompa9 this seems like a perfect opportunity to tap into actual modeling work and spice this meal all by yourself instead of use premade seasoning

[Tompa9]

Is there any tutorial for that please?

[AshuraDX]

A tutorial on fixing this specific model? No.

But there are some rules to follow while modeling to ensure that something shades the way you want it to.

 

To apply these rules you must know 2 things: the Rules to follow and how to use the modelung program of your choice.

 

Lookup polygon modeling tutorials for Blender, that should give you a basic grasp on how to use the various tools in your Arsenal. After that - play around with those tools to further understand the way they work. Once you feel ready to tackle the next topic, look up tutorials for modeling lowpoly heads/faces. Focus on Edgeflow and topology.

[z3filus]

I have also tried this face texture on HS´s head, which is better modelled but still it doenst look like Hayden

 

Are you kidding me? What part of this doesn't say  "I hate sand, it gets everywhere.."