therfiles Posted October 13, 2012 Posted October 13, 2012 http://kotf.com/main.htm Seems like there is a new KOTF release on the way. Akimoto likes this
Mog Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 Part 2 is apparently gonna be released soon. Still doesn't hide the fact that the mod is just a collection of smaller mods and painted to look pretty. Also, can people stop bitching about the fact that KOTF has a virus? It's just a false positive, it will do you no harm.
Guest Ory'Hara Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 LOL, so ole Grizzly's words about the mod bein chock full of trojans and viruses is just disinformation? rofl
Jango40 Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 No, kotf doesn't (Forgot to put doesn't there) have a virus. downloaded, scanned and everything.
Guest Ory'Hara Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 wow, thats bigger then jka's standard install size i think, wow, rofl. Jango, what did you scan with?
eezstreet Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 wow, thats bigger then jka's standard install size i think, wow, rofl. Jango, what did you scan with?that's because KOTF copied the assets over to artificially inflate the file size. or at least they did in earlier versions.
Guest Ory'Hara Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 ah, so have the basejka assets in there with the kotf mod?
Link Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 Just FYI, Tim ("author" of KOTF) is going around servers with an advertisement bind trying to send people to the website. He has a static IP so if you'd like it for banning purposes feel free to PM me. I also suggest filtering "kotf.com" He's connected as "Padawan", "Tim", "pADAWAN" and "Reborn" as of late... pretty desperate. therfiles, Jango40, MUG and 1 other like this
eezstreet Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 Why not just paste it publicly? MUG and Jango40 like this
MUG Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 Just FYI, Tim ("author" of KOTF) is going around servers with an advertisement bind trying to send people to the website. He has a static IP so if you'd like it for banning purposes feel free to PM me. I also suggest filtering "kotf.com" He's connected as "Padawan", "Tim", "pADAWAN" and "Reborn" as of late... pretty desperate.Saw him do this the other day actually...might have been on TO.
Link Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 Why not just paste it publicly? Because I'd rather not post his static IP publicly.
Guest Ory'Hara Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 He's the guy runnin around sayin that kotf is gonna squish mainstream jka right?
Mysterious Stranger Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 I did like KOTF mainly due to the camera...but the size is ridiculous <.< and like some people said the lack of proper credit bothers me. 1.01 is half dead, this guy won't get far...hopefully. *Rawr*
Tx606 Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 Just FYI, Tim ("author" of KOTF) is going around servers with an advertisement bind trying to send people to the website. He has a static IP so if you'd like it for banning purposes feel free to PM me. I also suggest filtering "kotf.com" He's connected as "Padawan", "Tim", "pADAWAN" and "Reborn" as of late... pretty desperate.Are you sure it's actually Tim? Seen a guy spamming loads in MB2 as Padawan mainly.
Link Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 I'm pretty sure but I could be wrong, I remember his IP because it has been static for yearsssss. He only began doing it again recently.
therfiles Posted October 23, 2012 Author Posted October 23, 2012 Kotf really saddens me. It has lots of cool features. Some of their Uis...are just...awesome. I would just love to data mine it. He's got websites opening from the UIs...how does he do that? It really seems like he skirts over some of the core features in his videos, like missions. But overall, the mod is just far to cluttered with legal mess and other people's work.
Linken Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 Dear JKHUB, Please don't ban me for this post I am about to make Linken233 I used to be a diehard KOTF fan, but after the disappointment of part 1, not to mention it being 4 years after it, I've pretty much lost all the hope I have. I might download it just out of curiousity, but after that, I'm done, but I probably should defend Tim on somethings he did. This is me speaking from my years of gaming experience (and college as I am majoring in Computer Science). Copying the main assets: He had to do that for the sake of doing the startup menu, no other mod has that, not to mention its an EXPANSION pack, not an official one, but still is an Expansion. Like official expansion packs for legit games (Empire at War, Age of Empires) The game needs the original code and then has to build up from it. Using other peoples work: Alright, during the glory days of when part 1 was released, a lot of people (including myself) asked Tim if he really had used other peoples work without permission, he said he didn't and had asked all modders. Even if he hadn't, I checked some of the mods, mostly skins, I know of that were used in KOTF, NONE of them said "You may not use these mods without my permission". Tim did give proper credit where it was due. Had he made all the maps from scratch, the mod would have taken SO much longer to make, even with half of the features it has. Some of the other stuff he did (such as charge $100 for the DVD) is unacceptable and he should have been ashamed of that, the game after all was not his own creation, if I ever made a mod as big as that (and I sort of am in the process, shhh), I would never charge money, making a game modification for personal profit is illegal, as I'm sure it would be considered "soliciting money off the internet". In conclusion, I don't support KOTF anymore, I might download it IF it gets good feedback (or maybe just for the star wars saga missions). I tried time and time again to renew my faith, but I just have no hope anymore. Please don't ban me for the Hub for this.
Inyri Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 lol linken we're not going to ban you for expressing your opinion, don't worry. eezstreet, TwinHits, therfiles and 4 others like this
therfiles Posted October 23, 2012 Author Posted October 23, 2012 I still don't see why the base assets are needed to make the start up menu work. I have used such a start up menu, even made one, and it didn't require me to copy assets. The right path would be to have the user manually copy over the assets from base to the appropriate folder. As for Tim asking for permission, there is no doubt that he asked for permission for some things. Ultimately, we have no way of proving whether or not he did get permission. But still, there is no doubt that some authors refused to give their work and it was still used. There are some models that are unique and there are no other alternatives to using them. As for maps, it really seems like he just packaged a ton of them in there, and in some cases, straight decompiled them. It just seems like to me, if you are going to take a map, add entities to make it an SP level, fine. But just packaging an unmodified map(s) in your mod just isn't a good idea, in my opinion. Feel free to express your opinion, bro.
Linken Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 Honestly I don't know, KOTF has always been a complete mystery to me, I'm sure about 75% of the stuff I said on there wasn't true.
eezstreet Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 Because I'd rather not post his static IP publicly.Again, why not? He's lost all respect in the community, stole money from people, threw viruses on people's computers and stole people's mods and you say that posting his IP is bad? If anything, some vigilante user will flood his ISP and that will be the end of it.
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