**OFFICIAL** Dark Forces Mod revival topic

[KyleKatarn1995]

Here's a preview of Jan.

 

Wow, she looks totally like her from the Dark Forces game!! And I'm loving it! I hope it would be cool to release her as a download once it's finished, Jeff.

[Teancum]

Wow, she looks totally like her from the Dark Forces game!! And I'm loving it! I hope it would be cool to release her as a download once it's finished, Jeff.

Jeff and I have a plan, but I can't reveal anything yet.

[KyleKatarn1995]

Jeff and I have a plan, but I can't reveal anything yet.

I know, but I gotta love that original design of Jan Ors. She would look great in the Single Player mission of Jedi Outcast.

[swegmaster]

another recommendation, with the kyle customization, make it so that you can also swap the soundsets as well, like switch between df kyle, df2 kyle, and jo kyle sounds

[Teancum]

Neat idea, but I'd have to actually code that ability to do that.

[swegmaster]

Neat idea, but I'd have to actually code that ability to do that.

actaully, with the snd cvar, you can change which set of sounds the player uses, like snd <name of char sound folder>, located in sound/chars, ex. i want normal ja kyle sounds, and in the char folder theres a folder named kyle, so i do: snd kyle

[Teancum]

True, but I can't send it a snd parameter based on who you select. And in the end its just pain, jump, etc.

[swegmaster]

i meant as a menu option, not based on who you select, unless you're saying thats not possible

[KyleKatarn1995]

NICE! That looks great! Hey I've been meaning to ask you a few things:

 

1. Is it difficult for you to kitbash multiple layers? Like with Kyle, is it easy to get Outcast Kyle's head on Mercenary Kyle and vice versa? I'd love it we could do a few characters that were customizable via turning surfaces on/off like the default species. I don't necessarily want the Kyle bodies merged, but the optional heads would be nice. If they were merged I think there would be too many torso customization options.
2. Feel 100% free to say no to this -- but what do you think about kitbashing the JA rocket trooper's legs onto the Phase II mesh. I think it would beef it up a bit more, and the original texture you modified could possibly be remapped to the legs.

 

Also everyone... guess who's going to be an easter egg. It'll be a static model (no AI or animations), but I thought this little guy would be fun. I already know where I'm going to put him, but I don't wan to spoil it so I won't give it away.

 

Also from that same project (JK: Enhanced) I get to use a few items:

The Revive (third on top) can be used if I ever want to make an Icarus-scripted powerup. The backpack (middle bottom) will be used for getting Kyle's gear back on Jabba's ship. I'm thinking about using the keys, too and seeing if I can make them something you can pick up. Wish I had a way to make a third key, though. In JO/JA there are only two kinds of keys.

Speaking of Max, did you know in the level Ice Station Beta, there is an easter egg image of what appears to be Max's Head on the map.

 

[TheWhitePhoenix]

Speaking of Max, did you know in the level Ice Station Beta, there is an easter egg image of what appears to be Max's Head on the map.

 

I distinctly remember a Challenge Point in Shadows of the Empire shaped like that too.

[swegmaster]

alright i have one question: with the kyle customization, are you using the dfII kyle in-game version, cutscene version, or both? if the in-game version, are you implementing ALL the skins, like Rugar or One-Eye, or just certain skins?

[Teancum]

All of those are included with JO Kyle -- any alternate JK/JO/JA skin I can get permission for that's quality I plan to add. I was toying with the idea of adding tint back as well. That way DF Kyle can have his jacket tinted to a handful of colors and the different torso choice would be for the shirt/armor he is wearing underneath. For JO Kyle it would probably be the shoulder pauldron. If I do that I'm going to put the team color JK Kyle outfits as a separate model so they can have different tints from regular JO. Space is at a premium so I can't add a ton of them:

 

**IF** I add tints, here's the color scheme for them:

• DF Kyle's Jacket, JO Kyle's shoulder pauldron: Grey, Black, Light Brown, Dark Brown, Red, Blue
• "Team" JK Kyle, some of the multiplayer JK Kyle clones like Rugar: Red, Blue, Gold, Green, Orange, Purple

[KyleKatarn1995]

 

All of those are included with JO Kyle -- any alternate JK/JO/JA skin I can get permission for that's quality I plan to add. I was toying with the idea of adding tint back as well. That way DF Kyle can have his jacket tinted to a handful of colors and the different torso choice would be for the shirt/armor he is wearing underneath. For JO Kyle it would probably be the shoulder pauldron. If I do that I'm going to put the team color JK Kyle outfits as a separate model so they can have different tints from regular JO. Space is at a premium so I can't add a ton of them:

 

**IF** I add tints, here's the color scheme for them:

• DF Kyle's Jacket, JO Kyle's shoulder pauldron: Grey, Black, Light Brown, Dark Brown, Red, Blue
• "Team" JK Kyle, some of the multiplayer JK Kyle clones like Rugar: Red, Blue, Gold, Green, Orange, Purple

 

Because of when Kyle Katarn used to join the Imperials and was ranked as an Officer, would it be cool if Imperial Kyle was added on with the Kyle Customization?

https://jkhub.org/files/file/802-imperial-kyle/

[Teancum]

I suppose so, but I don't have much in the way of customization to work from. It looks like just four skins. I suppose if people wanted to do the white Imperial Security Bureau uniform that might be one more.

 

Hmmm.... I tell you what. If someone makes that model a "species" that you can customize for regular JA -- complete with proper icons, I'll add it to the mod.

[swegmaster]

I suppose so, but I don't have much in the way of customization to work from. It looks like just four skins. I suppose if people wanted to do the white Imperial Security Bureau uniform that might be one more.

 

Hmmm.... I tell you what. If someone makes that model a "species" that you can customize for regular JA -- complete with proper icons, I'll add it to the mod.

thats what i can do

[Teancum]

Just be sure to give it proper icons like the default game. I don't really have time to do extra ones on my own.

[swegmaster]

alright here it is, ready to be added, although i'm not quite sure about it considering its modified model.glm to have the skirt:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/1vyvw362etzu2lb/impkyle_customization.pk3

don't use it, new link below

[Teancum]

Thanks, but as I said above I'm not going to add it unless it has proper icons -- not just repeats of the head. It needs to look like the species customization (proper icons for head/torsos/legs) for me to bother adding it. That's the part that's more time consuming. The skin text files are super easy.

[swegmaster]

i'll do the icons for the torso and lower some other time, right now its getting late, i might do it tomorrow

[Teancum]

Lost a few days work being a little too hasty with the delete key. Good thing I have network drives. I have set all my DF folders to backup onto the network drive around 1AM each morning while I sleep. Now I can have it backed up without the headache of using some online subversion system.

[swegmaster]

alright new version with new selection icons: http://www.mediafire.com/download/rzkk3heaxs83job/impkyle_customization.pk3

[KyleKatarn1995]

I wonder what kind of shirt is Kyle wearing when he talks to a holographic Jabba in this cutscene? You can see that he's not actually wearing his regular brown jacket.

 

[Teancum]

I always took it as the shirt he's wearing in JK. We can't really see his right shoulder, so who knows exactly.

[swegmaster]

I wonder what kind of shirt is Kyle wearing when he talks to a holographic Jabba in this cutscene? You can see that he's not actually wearing his regular brown jacket.

 

wait wtf, he looks like the df2 in-game version of him

[Teancum]

So given the progress I lost in my maps -- a few days -- I decided just to go ahead and totally rework the Robotics Facility outside. While I haven't tested it in-game yet I can say it looks so much better, and much more true to the original. Pics to come once I have it in game and lit properly.