Darth Sion

And also.. I, personally, wouldn't have used "Duel of the Fates" as background music.

Unfortunately I can't change it so that a hilt has a unique blade effect, that is hard coded into the engine.

 

This is why I will make it optional though, some people may not like others having the blade effect.  

Yeah, that's fair enough.. Well, you do what you think best. I'm sure it should come out well, either way. At least then though, I'll be able to get rid of AshuraDX's and Xeby's two versions, from my downloads. You need both of their files to make it work properly. So it'll be nice and refreshing, to only have to use 2 files from within one mod (if that's the way it's gonna go).

This was their attempts:

http://jkhub.org/files/file/2214-kylo-rens-lightaber-adx/

and the 2nd file you needed to make it work (properly)

http://jkhub.org/files/file/2218-kylo-ren-sith-unstable-saber-sw-episode-7/

I agree with the last part you said for sure.  Kylo's saber is unique and should have the blade effect by default.  The only problem is because I changed the blade effect for red, it will change it globally.  So everyone with a red blade will have that effect.  

 

I'll think about which way I want to play it.  I'm actually probably going to release it in the next few minutes, just have to make sure I'm not missing anything ;D

Ahh.. I see. That part about;

"The only problem is because I changed the blade effect for red, it will change it globally.  So everyone with a red blade will have that effect.".

I see where you're coming from now. Unless, there's some way you can make it so that only Kylo's saber has that "unstable" saber effect? If not, then I'll leave you to decide which is best. I'd agree that it'd be a little weird, with other enemies in the game (Reborn's, for example) having the same saber effect as Kylo's hilt.

So you'd rather have it set up so that there will be 2 .pk3 files.

 

PK3 #1:  This will include all the saber files including the new blade effect

or

PK3 #2:  This will include all the saber files excluding the new blade effect

 

So that you will only need to install a single .pk3.  This would double the file size because I would basically have two of the same file, excluding the blade effect.

 

Rather than my original thought of: 

 

PK3 #1: This will include all the saber files.

PK3 #2: This will include the blade effect files to add on additionally.

 

This option would make the file size much much smaller.

 

I'm not worried about file size too much, but it just doesn't make sense to have two of the same file rather than have one copy of everything and just split it up.   

Yeah, I think it would probably work out a bit better actually. I just thought that, if you can have one .pk3 file with everything included (blade effect, sounds.. the works. etc.) and one .pk3 file without. It would be easier to differentiate between the two and it'd also be a little less confusing and you're not moving multiple files between your downloaded folder and your base folder.

Me, personally.. I'd just go for the complete mod itself, especially when using it with the Kylo Ren model. 'Cos I mean, if you're gonna use Kylo's hilt, you might aswell just use his "unstable" blade effect and sounds, too. It just wouldn't seem right, otherwise. That's my thoughts on it, anyway.

@ Thank you for the feedback!

 

I was planning on including 2 .pk3s 

 

1. This one will include the saber as well as the sounds.

2. This one will include the new blade effect (If this one is not in your base, the only thing you will not have is the blade effect)

 

Also the reason the blade looks so long in the picture is because of a perspective illusion.  The blade is the same length in game as every default saber (40)

Awesome! So will the first one .pk3 file:

"1. This one will include the saber as well as the sounds."

Include, both the new blade effect as well as the sounds and hilt? That's essentially what I'd be looking for.. To recreate the exact saber likeness from the movie, with just one file (if possible).

Still couldn't hurt for a third. Also, it looks good.

I agree! And personally, this is overall much better than those other two versions. @@Darth Martyr, is there any chance you could release this as just 2 .pk3 files? So that you have

- .pk3 file of Saber hilt with red "unstable" blade

and

- .pk3 file of Saber hilt without red "unstable" blade

That would be a much easier and better way of doing it, rather than adding additional .pk3 files on top of what you currently already have.

Can I just make a suggestion though.. In the image shown (below).. The length of the blade is a little too long and could certainly do to be shortened a little. Other than that I can't fault it at all.

Screw the base game lol, someone make an ep7 mod.

 

Hopefully I'll get around to the other troopers.

Oh, don't get me wrong.. I'd be all for an Ep. 7 mod, as long as it has nothing to do with the Multiplayer. Personally, I'm not a fan of the Multiplayer. Much prefer Single Player stuff. But I do think that @GPChannel is in the process of doing an Ep. 7 mod, currently, anyway.. So will be interesting to see what he comes back with, when it's done.

DT will you create a TFA snowtrooper too???

Don't forget the Flametrooper, either.. But not sure who'd they'd replace in the base SP game, though. Obviously the Snowtrooper would replace the Imperial Snowtroopers on the Hoth mission and this Stormtrooper would replace the default Stormtrooper, but not too sure where the Flametrooper would fit in  .. 

Well ... why not do both? (a lot of work is always the best answer here... sadly :S)

But i am kinda prefer player models too :3 This ship would be some kind  of nice prefab on the map (md3 model )

I cant wait for maps from TFA OuO

I concur..  Would definitely love to see a NEW, **updated** Kylo Ren player model, with his "unstable" saber and hilt and sounds, if possible.

The model is very well done, @@Scerendo. I think the body doesn't need a lot more work,

because I can't see much of a difference between your model and Aayla as seen in the movie(s).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dunno if it's just me.. But can anyone else see a resemblance to Kaley Cuoco, in Aayla Secura's face? 

Lets refrain from making purely negative comments that don't really help anything (constructive criticism is always welcome here).

Yeah, I concur.. The situation is bad enough as it is, without making matter's worse.

Is there any news, as far as the next version of Luke goes, @@DT85? Or are you waiting til' after the holiday season to continue working on it?

@@MattFiler To be honest, Matt.. I'm sitting on the fence on this one, so taking more of a neutral stance on the whole thing, so to speak. However, some might argue that it.. (Evolution of Combat IV) shouldn't have been released in the first place, due to the reasons stated in this thread/topic (..And to some extent, I agree), but from what I've played of it myself, it wasn't even ready to be released. It's clearly still in the development stages. Because currently, it's a broken mess. None of the Galaxy Maps load up, when you've selected one, they just take you straight back to the main menu.. And you seem to be stuck in the menu's the whole time, so the mod/content never actually loads and you have to end up exiting out of it, because in a nutshell.. It doesn't work.

Again, I'm sure this is something that Serenity can clear up. But currently, it's 2.9GB of wasted space.

@@DT85 When Luke is out of the way, who will you make next? It would be cool to see Rey and Kylo done, maybe even released together like Toshi's Anakin and Vader? Just a suggestion. 

I believe @@Psyk0Sith is working on Kylo Ren.. I think he's all but confirmed it, himself. But Finn and Rey would be most welcomed. Also a hood down version of Luke, would make for a nice variation.

I don't know if it was just me.. or if anyone else was given this feeling aswell. But I certainly felt this movie was certainly trying to give off the impression of "empowering women". I mean, I'm not sexist in any way and I don't necessarily have a problem with it, at all. But with Rey being one of the main characters in the movie and diving into her (back)story (still a lot of stuff we don't know about her), it certainly gave me that vibe of.. Disney, in this instance, I think.. Of them trying to empower women, so as not to look sexist and probably done as a publicity stunt of some sort, as the Prequel and Original Trilogies were about male characters and people may have complained about the Star Wars movies being too one-sided towards males. Although, I think Captain Phasma would've at least been able to put that to rest, somewhat.

I mean, even I didn't know that Captain Phasma was a woman, until like a week before the movie came out.

Can I just ask.. Why on earth are we hiding spoilers?! The thread clearly states on the first page of the topic. Even the very first post;

"CAUTION: THIS THREAD CONTAINS SPOILERS"

So, people already know what they're getting themselves into. Which then, gives them the choice whether they want to proceed any further or not..

@@eezstreet

 

 

I think the reason Kylo killed Han (his father) is because Han is that pull to the light that he mentioned. Kylo idolizes Vader, but sees that he was seduced by sentimentality and connection. He knows that he needs to kill his father in order to become stronger, but he struggles with it (hence the whole "I know what I need to do, but I don't know if I have the strength to do it. Will you help me?"). However, as the light literally is sucked away from the scene, we see him finally muster the strength and he kills his father, and his connection to the light.

 

This.. ^^

Because Kylo Ren is a very conflictive character.. Both physically and psychologically. He's fighting a battle all the time, to be stronger with the Dark Side and fighting against the Light Side. He kills Han (his father), because as stated by @@therfiles, he needs to rid himself of that emotional connection to his past to be able to become stronger with the Dark Side. He would do the same to his mother (Leia), given the opportunity. Even though, I could kinda' see it coming.. It was still quite shocking to see. I felt for Chewie, afterwards. He was seriously p*ssed, hence his killing spree of Stormtroopers, afterwards.

I thought the ending, was very bittersweet (in a way). With Luke's appearance and Rey going in search of him. Somewhere along the line though, I think there's more to Rey than we know. I think she has some connection to Luke & Leia, than just being a random girl, trying to make her way in the world on Jakku.

Awesome. I don't have a problem with your opinion, because I don't care! More Star Wars for me in that case. Everyone needs to move on.

Y'know what.. I could not agree more.

I watched it.

 

This is litereally the worst movie I have seen in the cinema.

 

Seriously, it's THAT bad.

 

I don't even want to get specific about things.

I'm just gonna take what you've just said as "pure trolling".. Not very good "trolling", but hey, it's the 21st Century.. So, whatever. 

And they even made something about Kylo Ren and his weapon.

 

 

Well, @@Psyk0Sith.. If you ARE planning on designing a NEW model of Kylo Ren.. You've probably got everything you need for it, by now. But this should just about confirm & finalize his appearance/look, for you to get everything on him, accurate.

Saw it, loved it, can't wait for VIII. will be producing more content.

Awesome news, DT!   Personally, I'd love to see some more variations on the Stormtroopers, if your Ep. 7 Stormtrooper is anything to go by. The Flametrooper and Snowtrooper's would be most welcomed. And hopefully, all variations of them can be used as over-writes for the default ones in the game.

I saw the movie in 3D, this past Thursday night and thought the same as you. I'm gonna go and see it again, next week, all being well. 

And after that duel between Kylo and Finn, I still don't think Finn is dead. Will be interesting to see where Kylo goes from here, though. Was kinda' surprising in a way to find out that Rey was 'Force sensitive', although I had a feeling she might have some connection to the Force. But that whole flashback scene where Rey is led to Anakin/Luke's old saber from ESB, was freaky as hell. The First Order were pretty intimidating (Kylo Ren & his Stormtroopers, especially.. Or should I say Captain Phasma and her Stormtroopers). But I s'pose the big thing, was with Han Solo and what Kylo did to him.

Didn't know Craig too was a Star Wars fan. Hope he at least was paid for his role.

And yeah, that WOULD be a bad move. Both in-universe AND fan wise for the First Order.

I noticed similarities to the Original Trilogy, here, too.. But like the old saying goes.. Why fix what's not broken?!

I guess that @@DT85 saw the movie so he have to make a new version 3.0 for the hand

Seemingly so, although I don't quite understand how he (Luke) has gone from having a full-blown hand (even if it's robotic), to just having a robotic hand, like Anakin did at the end of Ep. II?! I mean, where's all the flesh off it, gone? But yeah, hopefully @@DT85 is onto v2.5, I would say at this point and is adding the robotic hand in its place.

I saw the movie in 3D, last night.. The cinema was sold out! Good job I pre-booked my tickets, prior to the early screening. I kinda' feel bad for all those Americans having to wait until today (Friday) to be able to see the movie. But oddly enough, what I found quite funny.. Is the .gif of Kylo Ren in my forum signature (below) wasn't actually in the movie at all. At least I don't remember seeing it. But that whole lightsaber fight between Finn and Kylo was pretty awesome! I felt it very much mimicked the fight between Luke and Vader from "The Empire Strikes Back". But Rey, essentially being a more powerful Force user than Kylo kinda' shocked me a little. First off, she starts to use a "Jedi Mind Trick" on a Stormtrooper, to release her from her constraints, while being held captive. Then is able to Force pull a lightsaber hilt to her hands, at the same time Kylo is trying to do the same thing. But I'd definitely agree with a web post I saw somewhere, about Kylo Ren being an emotional mess. "Conflicted", I think would be the right word to use here.

I certainly did get the feeling with this movie though, that it "empowers women" (which isn't necessarily a bad thing at all). But I think there's more to the back-story of Rey, than we've seen in the movie, which I think will pan out over the next few films.

They're stupid, unrealistic, don't make sense and look worse than if the game didn't have them.

If you don't like them.. Fine! Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. But you do realise that the saber trails are included for something called "added realism", don't you.. And I give props to the modders, who decide to include this and make the mod more like the movies. All I can say is, you clearly haven't seen a Star Wars movie, if you think that the game looks better without them.

On a personal note, (to @MattFiler & @Serenity937), don't remove the saber trails. Tweak them, if you need to (for improved realism), but you're gonna get haters, regardless. Stay with your original vision for the mod and don't make unnecessary changes, just because one person out there, can't appreciate the work that's gone into the mod.

...why does EOC4 include both the JK2 and JKA assets, and also JKG stuff? There's no readme for any of the JKG stuff either, let alone proof of permission.

 

 

 

 

In fact, on your promotional stuff on Moddb, there's even JKG effects being shown, but we never gave permission for any of those effects to be used. While we provide the assets free of charge and allow private use, you will need some sort of acknowledgment on your part that those effects belong to JKG. Otherwise it looks like you made them, which is completely inaccurate.

FWIW this is why we intended to include PK3 protection on the files with JKG in the first place, because we were (apparently rightly) convinced that people would take the assets and claim them as their own.

 

 

I'm a little bit wary of it in general though. For instance there's a Kylo Ren model included. Both of the Kylo Ren models on this site state "Other people may not use this file in their mods without permission" and yet the owners have never received a private message from you guys. Unless there is a third Kylo Ren model somewhere or they deleted the private message, I have to assume that this was taken without permission.

If @@Kualan and @ are obliged, perhaps they could download EOC4 and see if their file was included?

I'm not arguing any point here, eezstreet.. But it may be possible that there's a NEW Kylo Ren, currently in the works by @@Psyk0Sith.

@@Psyk0Sith I totally think you should make a Kylo model, especially since you made such a amazing Malgus model, and that technically wasn't even finished! 

I second this notion  A more accurate Kylo Ren would be extremely welcomed.. And @Psyk0Sith did an INCREDIBLE job on Darth Malgus. It's not that often that I praise someone's work that deeply, but my god.. That skin/model was extremely good!

It would also be nice to possibly get some voice work included with him too, along with his saber hilt and blade, instead of having 2 or 3 different, additional .pk3 files to have to use at once.