Maximum Number of PK3's

[Circa]

I know this has been asked so many times over the years but I only ran into the problem last night. Does anyone know the approximate number/size allowed in the base folder? This has nothing to do with JA+ or any of that, just baseJA. It might be less on mine because I'm using the Mac App Store version because I don't remember it being this low of an amount. I only have about 12 or so.

[eezstreet]

4096 PK3s appears to be the limit in Quake 3. It wouldn't surprise me if the limit in JA is higher.

[minilogoguy18]

I would have thought overall size would matter more than # of files since the game engine just merges everything.

[redsaurus]

what error/problem are you having?

[Circa]

what error/problem are you having?

The app just crashes. I took some out and it stopped happening. I guess I can try to see if it's actually an error with a specific file, but it doesn't give any errors.

 

I'll play the elimination game to find out I suppose.

[Circa]

what error/problem are you having?

Well I've been messing around with it. It seems to be the amount of files. I'm still not sure if it's size or number, but its definitely not a specific file.

 

I've also tried going through and deleting things from each PK3 that I don't want or use like bot files and those sorts of things, and combined a few of them, like putting all Obi-Wan models in the same pk3.

 

I have 18 PK3's total, besides the assets. 12 of them are just models/skins and the rest are personal mods/tweaks. The total size of all them total is 102 MB.

 

Does anyone else running the Mac App Store version have this issue?

[Mog]

So....basically, you're having an issue with having too many PK3 files and it's crashing?

 

 

if so, this might help you.

 

If not....then I don't know.

[redsaurus]

where are you putting the pk3 files?

[Circa]

So....basically, you're having an issue with having too many PK3 files and it's crashing?

 

 

if so, this might help you.

 

If not....then I don't know.

 That site is requiring me to login to view it.

 

where are you putting the pk3 files?

The base folder in the .app file where the assets are.

[redsaurus]

Try putting them in the other base folder. I posted where it was here.

 

If that doesn't work, check in Console.app (at /Applications/Utilities/) to see if there are any error messages.

[Circa]

Try putting them in the other base folder. I posted where it was here.

 

If that doesn't work, check in Console.app (at /Applications/Utilities/) to see if there are any error messages.

Oh wow. I didn't even see that portion of your post. I just saw the Steam version part and I guess I completely skipped over the part I needed.

 

Unfortunately it still didn't work.

 

Console gives a crash report but it won't open the whole report.

 

 

[redsaurus]

Are you sure the report won't open? Try looking in /Library/Logs/ in the sidebar for it

[Circa]

Okay, I found one there, but it was from a couple days ago. It should still be the same problem though.

 

 

Process: Jedi Academy [10079]

Path: /Applications/Games/Jedi Academy.app/Contents/Jedi Academy.app/Contents/MacOS/Jedi Academy

Identifier: com.aspyr.jediacademy.sp.appstore

Version: 1.01 (109339)

Code Type: X86 (Native)

Parent Process: launchd [568]

User ID: 501

 

Date/Time: 2013-03-06 21:44:27.690 -0600

OS Version: Mac OS X 10.8.2 (12C60)

Report Version: 10

Sleep/Wake UUID: B6DD8988-EE7F-4126-A2BB-2019084EE685

 

Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

 

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (SIGILL)

Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000

 

Application Specific Information:

dyld: launch, running initializers

/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib

XPC domain creation failed: Process is not in an inherited sandbox.

 

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

0 libxpc.dylib 0x9422a2e0 _xpc_runtime_init_once + 1457

1 libdispatch.dylib 0x922d7bf1 dispatch_once_f + 57

2 libxpc.dylib 0x94220641 _xpc_runtime_set_domain + 218

3 libxpc.dylib 0x9421fa39 _libxpc_initializer + 529

4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9486ac30 libSystem_initializer + 152

5 dyld 0x8fe9ecda ImageLoaderMachO::doModInitFunctions(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 230

6 dyld 0x8fe9efde ImageLoaderMachO::doInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 64

7 dyld 0x8fe9b268 ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 356

8 dyld 0x8fe9b1cc ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 200

9 dyld 0x8fe9b1cc ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 200

10 dyld 0x8fe9b1cc ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 200

11 dyld 0x8fe9b1cc ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 200

12 dyld 0x8fe9b0ba ImageLoader::runInitializers(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 62

13 dyld 0x8fe8ce05 dyld::initializeMainExecutable() + 211

14 dyld 0x8fe90adb dyld::_main(macho_header const*, unsigned long, int, char const**, char const**, char const**, unsigned long*) + 3050

15 dyld 0x8fe8c376 dyldbootstrap::start(macho_header const*, int, char const**, long, macho_header const*, unsigned long*) + 704

16 dyld 0x8fe8c077 _dyld_start + 71

 

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):

eax: 0xac56e240 ebx: 0x94229d40 ecx: 0x0106d570 edx: 0xbfffdce8

edi: 0x94229d40 esi: 0x0106d350 ebp: 0xbfffe998 esp: 0xbfffdb00

ss: 0x00000023 efl: 0x00010282 eip: 0x9422a2e0 cs: 0x0000001b

ds: 0x00000023 es: 0x00000023 fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x0000000f

cr2: 0xdbb00000

Logical CPU: 7

 

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External Modification Summary:

Calls made by other processes targeting this process:

task_for_pid: 1

thread_create: 0

thread_set_state: 0

Calls made by this process:

task_for_pid: 0

thread_create: 0

thread_set_state: 0

Calls made by all processes on this machine:

task_for_pid: 5648

thread_create: 0

thread_set_state: 0

 

VM Region Summary:

ReadOnly portion of Libraries: Total=119.1M resident=51.6M(43%) swapped_out_or_unallocated=67.5M(57%)

Writable regions: Total=30.8M written=108K(0%) resident=180K(1%) swapped_out=0K(0%) unallocated=30.6M(99%)

 

REGION TYPE VIRTUAL

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TOTAL 301.4M

 

 

 

[redsaurus]

Hmm that's strange. And you're launching normally from the .app in Applications not the other one inside the application bundle?

[Mog]

Oh...well..here was what I tried to link to:

 

by venturous » Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:01 am

"I think it's because you have too many skin files in your base folder and need to delete a few in order to play as the one you want. I know certain skins have more issues with the memory thing than others, so try removing a few from the base folder and try it again."

[Circa]

Hmm that's strange. And you're launching normally from the .app in Applications not the other one inside the application bundle?

Yeah I am.

 

 

I guess it is the skins then. That kinda sucks.

 

I use them for NPCs mostly. That's why I have so many.

[Futuza]

I think if I remember right, OJP basic/enhanced had a fix for removing this limit.  But its been a while and I could be mixing up things.  You could try looking into that.

[Circa]

Well after some more testing, I discovered that it was actually the NPC's that were causing the issue. I deleted the npc files from a few folders but left the models there. It ran fine.

[Hirmanator]

4096 PK3s appears to be the limit in Quake 3. It wouldn't surprise me if the limit in JA is higher.

 

So the real question is who here has reached that limit? 

[Raz0r]

I would not surprise me if DeFRaG players have reached that limit. There are countless maps for that, and the engine they use had to rewrite portions of that code to allow large amounts of PK3 files to be used.

[minilogoguy18]

I would think that you would run into other problems before hitting the limit since most modders can be sloppy causing conflicts between other mods.

[Circa]

Bump much?

[DaleksAreSupreme]