Lazarus

This looks amazing

Okay not a mod request, but i sincerly suck at modeling, nor i do have the time to actually come up with something that resembles a model. I am looking for palm trees, grass sprites, ferns or any plant life model / texture i can get my hands on that can help me create the atmosphere. Or if ianyone wants to teach me how to use blender propperly for low poly models because despite me trying (i do have a bark, but the leafs are a pain in the ass) i cant get it right

Again, postponed, not forgotten. Worked actually last Monday on this for a few hours, cleaning up a lot of brushwork on this , and started on the side part that connects the main area (where the "mission giver" is) to the soon upper part, with the crashed ship (you have to gather parts there) Nothing wortth noting really, but for the sake of arguement, this is a WIP threat after all

Its a translation of Dutch where "We parkeren een project" technically means we put the project on hold. I realize now it's a term that English people dont use. My apologies

So is this a parked map from you Noodle?

It feels very dark, very ... mysterious. I think thats the right word for it. Just that elevator sound halfway (i use it for my elevators at least) kinda is misplaced. I have a feeling something has happened in this freighter and we gotta find out ... Keep going. Seeing other mappers at it makes me happy and motivated again. Trying really to make some time now for my own project as well.

isnt this a quest for request or modding help, rather than a WIP

I havent forgotten this project, i am just trying to find time again. I started a new job and its taken more out of me than i initially thought. No worries, i am still arround, and hope to continue it when I do have the time.

Scripted elevators. Background For some, a real pain in the rear end. Some people think the func_plat will suffice when they are mapping, but for others, not so much. This is because the func_plat always returns to its starting position after it has ran its course. In my opinion, the func_plat is the easy solution, but inadequate of what we truly want. A real elevator works like this: you call, and it stays at your position until you say otherwise. I heard about techniques using the toggle function within a func_door and having that dictate your elevator. Also that has its downfall, because a door you can’t properly set to its height, so you had to drag it out and start from top, leaving an ugly brush to show. Today we are going to do it scriptwise, and its not as hard as you think. Let’s set up radiant first how we want it. Setup in GTK Radiant. Lets first preperate room. Where do you want the elevator and how is it going to run. It It a diagonal one or a vertical one, even horizontal is possible. Everything you think is not possible, is possible with scripting. In common, it may take more time and steps to create it, but if you understand the basics, it’s really easy. So I am going to do a regular vertical elevator. I create my platform and create for show a rail where it is on. On the top position, I placed a platform I can step on and off, with the same below. In between I created the elevator itself, which is nothing more than a visual representation at this point. It consists out of 2 brushes connecting to the rails, and the platform itself. For the sake of appearance, I added a nice feature which will be the button to control the elevator So now we have the visual stuff out of the way, let’s start on the entities. The very first thing you need to do now is create a brush in the middle of your platform (don’t matter about the size, but I made it in the 16 by 16 by 16(which is 2 blocks in the grid of 8). Why? This is going to be the center point for your reference in the script. Cover the brush with the origin texture out of the system map. It’s an orange texture with origin on it. You can’t miss it. That out of the way, lets transform the platform into a usable entity. We will transform the moving part in a func_static. This allows the script to move the platform towards we point it too later. Select everything you want to move, right click in the 2d screen and go to the func menu. Select the func_static. Your brushes should now turn blue lined in the 2d view. So I transformed the platform (with all the parts I want to move, including the origin brush) to a func_static. I opened the entity panel, (press N for those who do not know it) and give your func_static a script_targetname as key. As value, pick what you want. In my case, I called it the implift1. This value we need later in Behaved. Additionally you can use a soundSet for the elevator. This will be played when the platform is moving. I picked platform, but there are tons of soundSets. There is a file called sound in one of the assets. It contains all the soundSets there are in the game, thus making it easier to chose from. Scroll about 2/3 down, cause a lot are ambient sounds for the environment. Next part is the path it should run over. This is where we use ref_tags for. These ref_tags are used for a lot of things in scripting, such as camera usage, but also for reference points for moving objects, in this case, your future elevator. We are going to create 2 of them. One for the top, one for the bottom. Since my elevator as starting at the top, the placement of the ref_tag should be at the same spot as the origin brush we created earlier on. The other one should be on the bottom position of where the elevator should stop. The only thing we need to add to the ref tag is it’s targetname. In my case, the upper one is called elevatorup, and the bottom one is elevatordn as you can see in the image. So now, we simply need something to activate the elevator. Logically I would end up with a trigger, so create 4 of them (we have technically 4 positions to call the elevator from). That means up 2 and down 2. Create a brush and cover it in the trigger texture from the system textures. If you use a static button to move your elevator, don’t mind this explanation but if you use something like I did, I ll elaborate. The elevator goes down, thus it needs to be controlled down as well, since your console is sliding with you it means you need a trigger as well at the bottom part to control the elevator to send it back up. That’s why you need 4 triggers and not 3 as you would count the consoles. Convert the brushes into trigger_multiple and tick the use button box, and the facing. Give it a count of -1 (for infinite uses) a wait of 1 second (so it won’t fire so quickly) and an angle. The angle gives the direction in which you have to face to activate the button. Almost done now. We now only need to tell the triggers to move the object. Now this is where the “magic” happens. We need a 2 target_scriptrunner. One to make the elevator move up, and the other one to move it down. To separate them, I always place one up to point it to the up position, and one down, to point it to the down position. This way I don’t get confused. Create 2 and give them both a usescript key and give it a value of where the script is gonna be and what is called. In my case, I quickly named it test/elevatordn for the lower one, and test/elevatorup for the upper one. (test is the subfolder within the scripts folder). Now you need to connect the respectable triggers to their target_scriptrunners. You do that by first selecting the trigger, then the target_scriptrunner it should run and hit control-k. The following image doesn’t show it clear, but for me the setup is linked to each other. This is all that should happen in radiant. The actual scripting The rest happens somewhere else, namely in the script. In this case, we need to start scripting. If you never scripted before in your life. No worries, cause BeHaved is easy to learn. If you want to learn more about Behaved first, I suggest you look at other tutorials too, and/or follow me. So launch Behaved (find it in the tools section of your gamedata folder) and double click on the rem message (it says comment) on top of your screen (in the big right field). I always tell there what the script does, so I filled in “moves elevator to top”. You can leave it blank if you want to. So this is Behaved, isn’t that scary. Behaved is a drag and drop program that lets you easily create scripts. It has all kinds of functions, as you see, but today we only use 2 of them. The first one is the affect one, you see on the left side. Double click on it and it should move to the right field. Its now in the script. Explaining is simple for the affect. It does what it says. In this block you can specify what you want to affect. So double click on it in you workfield and it should open. Standard, it says default what to affect, but since we don’t have a func_static called default, we need to change that. I called my func_static earlier implift1, so I change default to implift1 and hit okay. Right now you see also affect has an instance. It means you can place something in the affect. Simply said, we have an affect on the implift1 and we want to move it right? Guess what: Behaved has the move option. So lets go pick … oh wait… it has 2 move options. One with <vec,vec,float> and one with <expr,expr>. We need the vector, vector, float one. So double click on that, and its being placed inside the affect (if not, drag it from your workspace inside the affect) and double click on it. Now this is the hardest part of this whole tutorial. Sometimes you miss a step here and this is what screws you up. The first vector is actually where we need to move to. However, we don’t use a vector for this. Remember I told you earlier to place a origin brush? Now we need that one. So hit the expr button next to the left vector and suddenly you screen is expanded You see as 3rd option actually the origin. Hey, we used that! So hit the tag button next to it, and your first box becomes different. It will say “tag( "targetname", ORIGIN)”. Technically for us it says: “Bring the origin of our affect to the targetname.” Since we have an origin brush (which is the origin of the elevator) we are on the right track. Now we need to fill in that targetname. And that’s where we have the ref_tags for. Those are the reference points for the script. So we tell the script that the targetname is “elevatorup” (remember, we are working on the script to go up). You can ignore now the middle box, but we need to fill in the float. The float is right now the amount of miliseconds it will take to reach that destination. Right now it will move from begin point to end point in 1 second. That is very fast, so I changed it to 5 seconds, which is 5000 miliseconds. Hit ok, and that’s it. Don’t forget to check if your quotationmarks are still there around the targetname (elevatorup). If not, it will give an error. This was it. Hit save and save it to the folder and name you specified in your target_scriptrunner. Hit compile and you are done…. Wait, we only can go up now. Lets do the exact same thing but then to go down. But why invent the wheel again. Hit Saveas, save it as the other script we defined to go down for in the other target_scriptrunner and just change one thing. Do you know which one? That’s right. We need to change the targetname in the move section. Change it to the targetname you gave to the ref_tag that is in the lower position (for me that is elevatordn). Save it and compile it. Done and done. Change your comment on the top if you set it too. Compile your map and enjoy. Extra: if you put this in a multiplayer map, it would be smart to add a delay of 6 seconds at least to the target_scriptrunner. This will make sure people don’t start messing with buttons while you are using the elevator and renders the scriptrunner inactive for 6 seconds after use.

yea, _minlight adds a constant light throughout the whole map. It does make it completely unrealistic tho.

Let me first finnish this then we will talk

I know I sound like crap ... i am not much of a voice actor .. but I need to have an outline on dialogue

We are talking about a game editor that is for an engine that is near 2 decades old. Sadly this is the limitation of GTK, it cant project light sources, since most of them are based either on shader or light entities, and the view window doesnt know how to make it appear in game. Honestly I wish it was possible, but sadly not. We just have to skate around this.

http://forums.warchest.com/showthread.php/3455-error-max_original_edges and https://jkhub.org/topic/3189-error-max-original-edges-what-is-this/ Tiny brushes, to many triangles, all that kind of stuff... Also, is the spawnflag solid ticked on your models, that also might cause a problem

Minor update: closed on the end side the gap with mountains. I am just about 50 brushes shy of 2000, so I am not unhappy, with probably needing another 250/500 brushes, so in total less than 2500, to finnish one of the bigger areas in this SP map. I think I need close to 20, maybe 25000 brushes for this terrain to unfold, but I am patient. I just want it to be right. (oh yea, and the shadow will be different since the sun in the shader is at the wrong place .. lol) Merry Christmas all

Saw it last night and boy, was I dissapointed....

I need a little more information on this. How is your set up? How are your models set up, etc. Screenshots help . Sounds to me a bit like your model isnt either pointed correctly in the npc spawner. (I am gonna asume your model has an npc file)

Little update, could work between Christmas shoppings on it. I actually deleted a part (it used to be much more, but my idea of a overhanging rock tunnel formation, it just didnt work in my oppinion) and started on a different part so I could work towards the matching up.

I am a doctor, not an Stargate Atlantis character.... @@Sting Do you have by any chance a palmtree model laying arround?

Arent entities lost when decompiling?

Actually, i know there is a package with the complete decompiled version of JKA maps. I used to have it on my pc for reference, but crash and shit happens Just wondering if anyone has laying them around.

Is there a map file of t1 danger? Trying to figure out how to do objectives like that.

https://jkhub.org/mapping/richdiesal/Shaders365_Lesson_4_CustomLiquids_files/sh365lsn4.htm