mod overriding not working?

[anxietymuppet]

hey all,

 

i tried the newest OpenJK build for windows, and I have several .paks in my base folder that alphabetically override parts of other .paks (e.g. zzzz_redbowcaster overriding the bowcaster's green shots in zzz_customeffects), however they don't seem to override in OpenJK. So for the previous example, instead of getting red bowcaster shots I get green one's instead, while the rest of the effects are still the same from zzz_customeffects. why is this happening? i thought maybe the load order in OpenJK was reversed, but renaming the .pak files doesn't do anything. Neither does moving the .paks to the Documents base folder that OpenJK creates.

[Ramikad]

.pak or .pk3? There is a difference.

[mrwonko]

So is this only an issue in OpenJK or in base, too?

[anxietymuppet]

whoops sorry, I meant .pk3, not .pak. And I only have this problem in OpenJK, base game works fine.

[eezstreet]

I have noticed a similar issue in JKG since we updated the codebase a while ago to more recent OpenJK. It will load assets0-assets5 and also JKG_ASSETS0-JKG_ASSETS5 but it won't let me overwrite anything from JKG_Assets, without me replacing the files in those PK3s.

[ensiform]

I wonder if it has anything to do with https://github.com/JACoders/OpenJK/commit/37dd18aa953330883c9c396984eb3d9bc90458f8

[Exmirai]

confirmed on several machines...

[ensiform]

But does it happen on Linux or Mac.

 

@@Raz0r @@Xycaleth @@mrwonko @@redsaurus @@Didz

[mrwonko]

If you supply a set of example pk3s to reproduce this, I can test on Mac.

[Circa]

I've never had this happen on Mac, though I still use an older build.

[eezstreet]

@@mrwonko try the Circa chat icon replacer.

[mrwonko]

@@mrwonko try the Circa chat icon replacer.

This one? I can't even get that to work on base jamp.exe... (Windows)

[anxietymuppet]

well i guess i can provide the files i gave as an example ...

 

http://www.mediafire.com/download/9gwu40021dbbrbw/zzzz_CustomEffects.pk3

http://www.mediafire.com/download/l2m7bizq6wqcbzp/zzzzzz_red_bowcaster.pk3

 

it's a crappy mashup of plagarized stuff, but i'm not publishing it anyway.

i was screwing around in SP btw, not sure how MP is. i thought i'd also try a couple older versions from 2015 and 2014, and they still have the same problem.

[ensiform]

I've never had this happen on Mac, though I still use an older build.

 

Did the newer mac builds ever get uploaded?

[Circa]

You tell me. Looks like Linux has taken over, from the looks of the builds page.

[ensiform]

There's one from last month.

[Circa]

There's one from last month.

That's the one you had me try earlier and it still crashed. There hasn't been an updated build since that one. I think @@redsaurus was possibly looking into the issue I was having.

[Raz0r]

I made Cat fix the uploading issue, Mac builder should be triggering fine. I can poke things this weekend

[LucyTheAlien]

Same issue, not terribly awful- but noticeable. 

[ensiform]

Same issue, not terribly awful- but noticeable.

It was moved to an issue on github so hopefully someone will investigate a little more.

[Xycaleth]

@@anxietymuppet can you try an older build to see if it works, or to find when it started breaking?

[anxietymuppet]

@@anxietymuppet can you try an older build to see if it works, or to find when it started breaking?

 

hi @@Xycaleth, i mentioned above that i tried 2 builds from 2015 and 2014 (around Dec.), and they still had the same issue.

 

however, here's where it gets interesting; so i thought before replying to your post i'd quickly try renaming my .pk3s again to load in reverse order in the 2014 build, but this time it worked. huh. so i reinstalled the latest OpenJK from 2016 and tried it again and it still worked. apparently if i rename a .pk3 that overwrites files with any letter not starting with z, the game won't allow it to overwrite files?

 

so for example, i previously renamed zzzz_red_bowcaster to b_red_bowcaster in order to override zzz_customeffects, which didn't work. this time i renamed it to z_red_bowcaster, which did work. i know the game is still loading .pk3s not starting with z, because i recently downloaded CamSP.pk3 and tried it in OpenJK, and it loaded fine. so um, problem solved? lol

[mrwonko]

Underscore comes after z in ASCII, so z_ comes after zzz. PK3s are simply loaded in alphabetical order after all.

[Exmirai]

there still issue at least with circa's chat icon replacement. Can't get it work

[ensiform]

And I thought you were the one who said it worked fine?