JKA and Windows 8

[Mog]

Ok...so I'm running into an issue with getting JA+ and UU to work with JKA. The game itself works perfectly but anytime I try to launch JKA through UU or launch JA+ either by launching it in game or launching it through the shortcut, it crashes in the boot screen. I have no idea why it's doing this.

 

I doubt the issue is a specs problem but if it is, here are my specs:

 

Processor: Intel i3 Dual Core 4010U @ 1.7GHz

RAM: 4 GB

OS: Windows 8 Pro 64-bit

Graphics Chip: Intel HD Graphics 

 

 

Now, I do wonder if it's the 64-bit OS that's causing the problem, however I don't know how I would be able to know for sure.

 

As I said earlier, the game by itself works without issue. The issue is anytime I try launching JA+ or using UU to open JKA it will crash. Can anyone help me figure out what the issue is?

 

[Mysterious Stranger]

Windows 8 is a bitch to deal with.

[eezstreet]

By the boot screen, I assume you mean the Jedi Academy splash screen?

[eezstreet]

Also, be sure to run as administrator (set jamp.exe's compatibility to do this)

[Stoiss]

works fine here i don't get why so many complain about win8 it runs jka fine, its your computer skills there makes the problem

[Mog]

By the boot screen, I assume you mean the Jedi Academy splash screen?

 

Yes, it appears then I get a "Stopped Working" error

 

Also, be sure to run as administrator (set jamp.exe's compatibility to do this)

 

I'll try doing that as soon as I get home. Though it isn't the actual jamp.exe file that doesn't work properly, but the japlus.exe file which is causing problems. I'll see if changing the compatibility to 32-bit will work though

[machi]

Did you install the 1.01 patch?

[Mog]

Did you install the 1.01 patch?

 

Yup, and I switched everything so it runs on 32-bit, though I'll have to wait until I get home before I can test it out

[CaptainCrazy]

I stay away from the operating system lol.

[eezstreet]

Problem isn't the OS, it's more likely that the fault lies with graphics cards/admin rights. Intel HD cards aren't really that great in general; they tend to have poor compatibility with both older and newer methods of rendering. Also, Windows 7 and 8 are both pretty much on-par in terms of compatibility, they both introduce the concept of admin rights which Unix & friends have had for years..

[Mog]

Yup, it was compatibility issues that caused the issues. Works fine now

[Shadzy]

Dont be tempted to turn off UAC just to play this game, as there are ways around it!

Compatibility mode to Win 7, plus run as administrator, should do it most of the time!!! (Or Openjk )

[Angel Soul]

I am actually having such a problem myself. My littlebrother has a Celeron computer, with Intel HD Graphics, and Windows 8.1... and I have patched up Jedi Outcast, and it still crashes on startup. I've updated the drivers - but it still won't work. Can someone help me please? Thanks in advance.

[ensiform]

The problem is your graphics driver has too many extensions for the game so it crashes when trying to print them all into a buffer that won't fit.

 

This isn't an issue with OpenJK engine.  But only JASP and JAMP are supported out of the box.

[Angel Soul]

The problem is your graphics driver has too many extensions for the game so it crashes when trying to print them all into a buffer that won't fit.

 

This isn't an issue with OpenJK engine.  But only JASP and JAMP are supported out of the box.

Allright. Is there any kind of fix for this? A patch or something?

[ensiform]

There is no actual patch for the regular games.  However:

 

You have several options, some of which you may not like .

 

Are you intending to play Jedi Academy single player/ multiplayer?

 

(If yes)

• Simplest is to just use an OpenJK build. See: http://jkhub.org/topic/2220-frequently-asked-questions/

The others are:

• Downgrade to an older graphics card that doesn't have so many extensions.
• Switch graphics card vendors (ie: go from AMD to nVidia) as some nVidia drivers have a hack for jasp.exe and jamp.exe that works around the crash IIRC.
• Find a copy of the original Jedi Academy source GPL release that isn't modified like ours is, and fix the issue yourself.

(If no, and you want Jedi Outcast)

• There is WIP support for Jedi Outcast Single Player, but you must build it yourself because we do not turn it on in the automated builds.
• No Multi Player support at all for OpenJK's JO yet.

[+FRivan]

I, erm, do use HD Graphics. No problem at all. I also use a 64 bit system. I also am using Windows 8. Running as Administrator, no compatibility mode(Though feel free to use it if you must), and copying the entire JKA Folder to the Desktop if nothing else works seems to do the trick

 

 

Then again, OpenJKA is so much better. Give him to the dark side of JKA Coders. They have cookies and milk. 

[ensiform]

Most likely some Intel HD graphics doesn't have a large enough extension string to hit the crash or they have gotten better like nvidia to truncate before it gets to the game. 

[eezstreet]

If you don't give a shit about performance or quality, you could hypothetically run a VM and play JA/JK2 without issue. Alternatively, you may be able to disable some extensions for a specific program in whatever CCC is called nowadays

[ensiform]

OpenGL and VMs or RDP not the greatest idea.  Like 5fps maybe.

[Xycaleth]

VMs work fine. I get 125FPS in a VM with OpenJK. This isn't 2000 anymore, where graphics wasn't hardware accelerated