MoonDog Posted December 24, 2013 Posted December 24, 2013 Are you even trying to ask for permission before you are hosting those?
Merek Posted December 24, 2013 Author Posted December 24, 2013 Are you even trying to ask for permission before you are hosting those?*slaps @@MoonDog* I doubt the people got permission for hosting these files: http://www.dgs-clan.eu/content/jka-maps.htm so I don't see any issue unless the author wants me to remove them.
Mysterious Stranger Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 Your thread title is so trollish I don't even know if I should take the bait or not. That EU clan isn't hosting the files, they are merely posting a handy list of links to those files. Yours on the other hand, heh. But my 2 cents which I'm not giving to you, thanks for that link from them, I see they have more maps than your site, I shall go and get whatever I want from there instead.
eezstreet Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 What map isn't worthy of getting archived? A work is a work, and whether or not it's good or bad, it should still get archived...And furthermore, just because others might not have gotten permission to rehost (or so you think, anyway, no solid evidence leaning either way) doesn't mean you should do it too. I mean hey, Tim ran a scam too, why shouldn't I? People absolutely loved him! (partial sarcasm and partial truth, some people genuinely liked the guy for what he did) Why aren't you trying to contact these authors and get this shit hosted on JKHub though? Seems like the wise thing to do. Omicron likes this
Onysfx Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 @@Mysterious Stranger Actually DGS maps does host the files, you can download the pk3 directly from the site. It comes with a link to the original file, but many of the links go to pcgamemods, so I'm grateful they decided to host it themselves in a way (even without permission), otherwise we would have lost many old JKA maps... Proof of this: http://www.dgs-clan.eu/download/gamedata/base/casa_de_los_parias.pk3 Not taking sides with anyone here, just pointing this out .
Mysterious Stranger Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 I didn't go clicking every file but largely they are links to other sites.
Onysfx Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 @@Mysterious Stranger You don't understand what I'm saying. Under the link it lists the files that come with it. (such as the .pk3s, etc). You can actually click the .pk3 file underneath and download it directly from the site like that.
Mysterious Stranger Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 Ooo I see it now, thanks. But I still stand by my statement XD they have more files! Sorry Revian no cookie for you.
Onysfx Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 @@Mysterious Stranger True, but they are missing uss_starlight_b, uss_titan, and several of the stargate maps. All of which should also be uploaded to JKHub . eezstreet likes this
Mysterious Stranger Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 Whoa you looked through the whole thing!
Onysfx Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 @@Mysterious Stranger Nah, I've known about DGS maps for many years. When I didn't have internet, I went to the library and downloaded maps everyday from there, something new to try at home you know? Oh, they don't have alzoc3_enclave either, which is a great, in fact, probably the best jedi temple map there is. katanamaru and Agent Jones like this
Mysterious Stranger Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 I admire your dedication well let's stop spamming the thread and talk elsewhere.
Onysfx Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 @@Mysterious Stranger You're right. If we keep talking here, the jedi will no doubt take ovah this thread. Do you have xfire?
Pande Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 @, why are you trying to prioritize people + files here? First the whole top authors thing, then this list, and then trying to make some sort of special forum thing.. it's not in the nature of this community. Also one of my maps is there, I was not asked. Permission granted but seriously.. this is a community. If you are going to be a part of it, please be respectful. MoonDog, Onysfx, eezstreet and 4 others like this
Onysfx Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 @@Pande What are you talking about Pande? Lord Revian is showing us what it means to be a true sith lord! Sith don't ask for permission, we do what we want. Do you think Palpatine asked for permission to wipe out the jedi? I think not. UNLIMITED POWAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 It took me around a month of solid work to gather permission for around 1,000 files on JKHub back when we started. It would had been much easier for me to not ask for permission, but it's simply the right thing to do regardless of whether another site does it or not. If you want to host files on your own website you'll need to find a decent webhost PLUS at least ask permission and show proof of asking (Emails). Omicron likes this
MoonDog Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 therfiles, Circa, Sentra and 1 other like this
Agent Jones Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 *reads the title *All my maps! or maybe none *reads the thread*Hosting maps on a public website is not exactly what we call Personal Use, but I don't mind having around another archive.
eezstreet Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 @: they didn't, and it's not a good thing that they did either. Re-read my post, please. And no, it's not the same thing... If I buy a book on Amazon, does that give me a right to then distribute copies to everyone without their permission...?
Szico VII Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 Devils Advocate; No, but it does allow you to lend or borrow anything you have bought in that way.
eezstreet Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 Devils Advocate; No, but it does allow you to lend or borrow anything you have bought in that way.Yea except you can't loan or borrow an e-book...can only loan one Amazon e-book ONCE. but irrelevant
Omicron Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 Wouldn't it be better use of time and resources @, and instead of adding new maps on that list, is you can get permission for the ones you currently have and get them uploaded to JKHub? eezstreet likes this
Link Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 @@Pande @@SiLink @@eezstreet asking for permission to host on MY site for MY personal use is saying I need permission to download files of your from the jkhub.org. Also @@Pande they really our archived files and they aren't being as formal as the JKhub therefore as long as don't sell them illegally I don't see an issue and waste my time asking permission from the authors as I am not stealing, modifying your work I am simply hosting them as an alternative in case the sites go away forever and I choose to host the files that are the best and most interesting.Also @@Pande @@eezstreet @@SiLink I don't think this site: http://www.dgs-clan.eu/content/jka-maps.htm asked permission to host the files did they? Who cares what other sites have or have not done? This is about doing the right thing regardless if you can get away with it or not. Also, if this is for your own personal use then why go to the trouble of making a public website where other people can download files? Surely a folder on your desktop is better fit for this purpose? eezstreet, Omicron and Futuza like this
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