the_raven Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 Note: I'm not sure it's the proper sub-forum, but oh well. So apparently someone remade\ is remaking the Serenity Jedi Engine from 2015. The (re)maker claims to have received permission from Serenity and to have fixed 99.99% of all bugs and crashes. Anyway, here's the page on moddb.Maybe someone already posted this, maybe the guy is even a member here (I don't know ), or maybe it's a fake, but I didn't see any posts, so I figured I'd share because it's obviously down this site's alley.Discuss.
ensiform Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 If there's no source code being made available, then it's a wasted project. No source, no release.
TheWhitePhoenix Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 It's more of the same. It does seem a bit more refined, granted. And it allows cheats without going through insane amount of difficulties.
JaceSolarisVIII Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 I posted a link to the source for this mod here on jkhub months ago, Im sure a simple search would help people find it. However, if you cant find it here it is.https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4G29RZdpiBeVTFQekNoRHgxSzA/view?usp=sharing everything I have is in here. Smoo and General Howard like this
ensiform Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 I posted a link to the source for this mod here on jkhub months ago, Im sure a simple search would help people find it. However, if you cant find it here it is.https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4G29RZdpiBeVTFQekNoRHgxSzA/view?usp=sharing everything I have is in here.Better to use source control in case you lose it again, and it should be provided or made available with at minimum every release, not just an older one.
JaceSolarisVIII Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 Better to use source control in case you lose it again, and it should be provided or made available with at minimum every release, not just an older one. I never lost it. maybe you did? But I've always known where it is.
ensiform Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 I was always under the impression the source was lost because it wasn't released initially. Unless that was kotf.
JaceSolarisVIII Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 I was always under the impression the source was lost because it wasn't released initially. Unless that was kotf. Na mate. The source was just broken and fragmented. I got 3 different copy's of the source from serenity each was at a different stage of development and all 3 were broken in some way or another. So I just merged them together to make a working copy. It never did pan out as I wanted and was always just a bit unstable because it would never debug properly. Thanks to openjk and the wanders they did with there source I was able to learn how to fix it and finally got it stable.The code version I'm working on at the moment changes every day as it is a W.I.P but I plan on releasing it with the final version of the mod as a package in December. Then I'm finished with coding. I have a baby due in march next year and my mission was to give this 1 year to try to rescue the code and mod as a personal challenge. I'm stuck (hit a wall again) with coop mode at the moment but I'm chipping away at it everyday. Noodle, TheWhitePhoenix and Smoo like this
ensiform Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 Just suggesting that if you published the code using GitHub you might have people who are interested in helping out instead of going it alone.
TheWhitePhoenix Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 Na mate. The source was just broken and fragmented. I got 3 different copy's of the source from serenity each was at a different stage of development and all 3 were broken in some way or another. So I just merged them together to make a working copy. It never did pan out as I wanted and was always just a bit unstable because it would never debug properly. Thanks to openjk and the wanders they did with there source I was able to learn how to fix it and finally got it stable.The code version I'm working on at the moment changes every day as it is a W.I.P but I plan on releasing it with the final version of the mod as a package in December. Then I'm finished with coding. I have a baby due in march next year and my mission was to give this 1 year to try to rescue the code and mod as a personal challenge. I'm stuck (hit a wall again) with coop mode at the moment but I'm chipping away at it everyday.@@JaceSolarisVIII I must say, I'm glad you allowed cheats to be used again on this. The one thing I didn't really like is that one feature. I understand WHY cheats were omitted from previous Serenity incarnations before, but having to beat Jedi Master with how broken it was just shooed me away from it entirely. If I can make one suggestion to add to the mod, RGB sabers. You already implemented SFX, so might as well go all in. JaceSolarisVIII and the_raven like this
ensiform Posted September 7, 2017 Posted September 7, 2017 @@JaceSolarisVIII I must say, I'm glad you allowed cheats to be used again on this. The one thing I didn't really like is that one feature. I understand WHY cheats were omitted from previous Serenity incarnations before, but having to beat Jedi Master with how broken it was just shooed me away from it entirely. If I can make one suggestion to add to the mod, RGB sabers. You already implemented SFX, so might as well go all in. Jedi master is harder in outcast lol.
TheWhitePhoenix Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Jedi master is harder in outcast lol.Oh, I'm aware. XD
JaceSolarisVIII Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 @@JaceSolarisVIII I must say, I'm glad you allowed cheats to be used again on this. The one thing I didn't really like is that one feature. I understand WHY cheats were omitted from previous Serenity incarnations before, but having to beat Jedi Master with how broken it was just shooed me away from it entirely. If I can make one suggestion to add to the mod, RGB sabers. You already implemented SFX, so might as well go all in. When you say RGB Sabers, do you mean the saber menu with a slider so you can change the colours to how you want them? Just suggesting that if you published the code using GitHub you might have people who are interested in helping out instead of going it alone. I have looked at Git and I wouldn't know where to start or maintain a source control on Git.
ensiform Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 Plenty of resources on how to online or in books
the_raven Posted September 8, 2017 Author Posted September 8, 2017 When you say RGB Sabers, do you mean the saber menu with a slider so you can change the colours to how you want them?yes, that's what RGB Sabers are General Howard and TheWhitePhoenix like this
TheWhitePhoenix Posted September 8, 2017 Posted September 8, 2017 When you say RGB Sabers, do you mean the saber menu with a slider so you can change the colours to how you want them? @the_raven already confirmed it. Plus, you can also edit it via console commands. XD But yes, that's correct. It's very handy and it could help re-playability value. That, and those who wanna roleplay/use it for machinimas would benefit greatly from it. the_raven likes this
JaceSolarisVIII Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 I've updated the release candidate build. RGB sabers now added to sp and mp. I have also had a big crack at some more coop mode fixes in mp and mission mode is now much more stable but not finished yet. When playing single player look in the ingame setup menus for a new character and saber changer. check it out here http://www.moddb.com/mods/serenityjediengine-20/downloads/serenityjediengine2018-advanced-rc1-beta/#6682844 TheWhitePhoenix likes this
TheWhitePhoenix Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 I've updated the release candidate build. RGB sabers now added to sp and mp. I have also had a big crack at some more coop mode fixes in mp and mission mode is now much more stable but not finished yet. When playing single player look in the ingame setup menus for a new character and saber changer. check it out here http://www.moddb.com/mods/serenityjediengine-20/downloads/serenityjediengine2018-advanced-rc1-beta/#6682844That was fast!
JaceSolarisVIII Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 That was fast! Doing the RGB sabers in sp was a bit of a pain, MP was just a copy paste job from ojp basic. Its the coop stuff that's still kicking my ass.
ensiform Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 The coop code in ojp is so incomplete that it's barely worth it.
TheWhitePhoenix Posted September 12, 2017 Posted September 12, 2017 Something on topic, but it looks like cheats are enabled in the build now as I brought up, but INCREDIBLY limited. It looks like you can only cheat a few times (I counted 5) before it stops and if you want to do it again, you need to reload the map or type in devmap _map name_. That's a good compensation, TBH.
JaceSolarisVIII Posted September 13, 2017 Posted September 13, 2017 The coop code in ojp is so incomplete that it's barely worth it. I have implemented the coop code first. Then I have put in loads of code directly from singleplayer source. What I do is start the mod in Debug mode and play a level until it crashes and debug tells me what caused the crash. Then I attempt to rectify the error using singleplayer as a guide. Its difficult because the 2 code bases (mp+sp) are so different. Raz0r, TheWhitePhoenix and Smoo like this
Raz0r Posted September 14, 2017 Posted September 14, 2017 I got 3 different copy's [...] different stage of development [...] merged them together Thanks to openjk [...] I was able to learn how to fix it and finally got it stable. I plan on releasing [...] in December. Then I'm finished with coding. I have a baby due in march next year and my mission was to give this 1 year to try to rescue the code and mod as a personal challenge. I'm stuck (hit a wall again) with coop mode at the moment but I'm chipping away at it everyday.I don't know you but I like your attitude. You should still use git(/hub) to develop+release code Swing by JKCommunity Discord if you need some quick help. JaceSolarisVIII and Smoo like this
JaceSolarisVIII Posted September 14, 2017 Posted September 14, 2017 I don't know you but I like your attitude. You should still use git(/hub) to develop+release code Swing by JKCommunity Discord if you need some quick help. Thank you, maybe here I can find some of the answers I need to help me finish the project. Also I was considering releasing the final version with the code here in December on jkhub. Do I need to know any special requirements before I upload it?
JaceSolarisVIII Posted December 5, 2017 Posted December 5, 2017 Extra CreditsExtracts were taken from The following sources and were used to help improve and update the source for this mod.Openkj main source https://github.com/JACoders/OpenJKRedsaurus Openjk SP improvements https://github.com/redsaurus/OpenJKDustys Patch SP Improvements Openjk https://github.com/DustysPatch/OpenJKWarzone MP improvements https://github.com/Stoiss/Rend2and special thanks should go to Serenity and Stoiss who are the original authors of this code. Smoo likes this
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