Lamented Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 Hey, everybody. I haven't requested this for a while and to tell the truth, it really has been festering like crazy so I couldn't hold off from requesting it any longer. What I'm requesting here is a character that was mentioned as half a clan pair in the Darth Plagueis novel, and who was later developed in The Clone Wars. Passion is his root. His name is Savage Opress, legacy of Kycina, brother and apprentice of Darth Maul, felled by the one and only Darth Sidious. And he was likely to be the next coming of Darth Revan or Darth Malgus, were he fully trained. I know some of you might misperceive this as a request for the ThunderBirds-animated style of Savage Opress from The Clone Wars TV series, but I would actually like to see a realistic take that some people might actually find a lot more appealing. Something more badass, as it were. And luckily, I have one link full of beautiful references. Seriously, an incarnation like this is a rarity. It was done beautifully and I think it would be really awesome to see in JKA, especially for people like me. I have a lot of friends who've been wanting this to happen for a while now. So you might ask: What's wrong with the ported model? It's still stuck with the ThunderBirds animation style that lacks a real feel to it. It sucks because I can't even stick it in the same category with DT85's Darth Maul at this point, and they're brothers.The textures are pretty shoddy and low-res as far as I can tell, and even if they were realistic, I'm not sure they would function very well with the model.There are a few bothersome bugs with the model. For instance, a patch of skin next to the eyes weirdly goes black and textureless. Also, the eyes clip through the face in a weird way.The teeth textures are... ugh.The kilt insignia somehow turned into a horribly wrong mess.Those are just off the top of my head. Now let's move onto specifying what I would also like to see added to such a model:One or two horns were cut on his head during his battle with Obi-Wan and Anakin, and that would be generous to add.In the comics, Savage Opress seemed to have a black cloak that is somewhat like Luke's in ROTJ. I'd love to see robed variants.Later on in the series, Savage's left arm was severed from his body by Obi-Wan. When he was retrieved with Maul by the Death Watch, he got a new badass-looking prosthetic arm and I'd like to see that added to the model as well, rather than just two regular arms. Can be kind of boring.It would be cool, in my opinion, if he had black fingernails. More preferable.You can find the references for the horns, cloak, and prosthetic arm below, so bonus points! This model is all I'm really gonna want from JKHub for years... and years... and, years... Anyway, thank you if you had enough courtesy to hear my message and consider this project. I wouldn't be the only one you'd make very happy, trust me on that. Even DT85 thought this might be pretty cool to see in JKA. Reference Update:Sideshow Collectible References - https://www.sideshowtoy.com/collectibles/star-wars-savage-opress-sideshow-collectibles-300190/Prosthetic Arm References - http://www.juliangupner.com/portfolio-item/savage-opress-mechanical-arm/ Tempust85, Bek, Merek and 1 other like this
Codrelan Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 This is honestly a great idea and I would love it to happen, someone please do this. Lamented likes this
Daedra Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 The robed version would be simple enough to make. Just get a robed Darth Maul, change the red on his face to Yellow, Give him a different Staff saber to resemble the one from the sources, and add new sounds.
Tempust85 Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 Anyone is free to butcher my Maul model if it helps to fill this request.
Daedra Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 Anyone is free to butcher my Maul model if it helps to fill this request. Yours would probably be the best to do that with. I dug out an old Maul I had and edited it, got it looking like the robed version. Fairly simple.
Lamented Posted September 6, 2014 Author Posted September 6, 2014 I don't want easy reskins with skin color changing, though. What I'm requesting is the real deal. He simply needs a new model. Plus, Savage uses different robes than Maul's cowl in Episode I.
eezstreet Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 The face painting isn't the same pattern as Maul's, so yeah, that makes sense. I don't really see how the robes are different though?
Lamented Posted September 6, 2014 Author Posted September 6, 2014 @@eezstreet Maul's cowl covers most of his body and seems like it's made of something different, where as Savage's seems more like a mix of Luke's and Sidious's.
Effacer Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 I agree that this model be built since there hasn't been one yet, it would also be great for the fans to make user mods out of it but if you're going to start him off from Maul, please make him more bulky and stronger looking...
eezstreet Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 Is there a better shot to compare? All of these shots make them seem almost identical, except maybe the first.
Lamented Posted September 6, 2014 Author Posted September 6, 2014 Darth Maul's using the same kind of cloak as Savage, I think. But I know it's not the same from Episode I.
Daedra Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 Darth Maul's using the same kind of cloak as Savage, I think. But I know it's not the same from Episode I. Here's a normal version as an .OBJ file http://tf3dm.com/3d-model/savage-opress-39959.html You would need to get it converted to JKA though. Edit: Looks like Savage is a little bigger than Maul, maybe make him Desann size.
Omicron Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 Here's a normal version as an .OBJ file http://tf3dm.com/3d-model/savage-opress-39959.html You would need to get it converted to JKA though. Edit: Looks like Savage is a little bigger than Maul, maybe make him Desann size.I'm pretty sure that maul isn't a dwarf. And that Savage model is that one that was ported, was just horribly rigged in ingame
Lamented Posted September 6, 2014 Author Posted September 6, 2014 Savage is actually really tall, so yeah. Much taller than Maul or Sidious. Also, like I said, I'm not into the ThunderBirds style or low-res textures. He definitely needs a new, realistic model.
Spaghetti Posted September 6, 2014 Posted September 6, 2014 A proper Savage would be cool, though I still can't get over the silliness of his name. eezstreet, therfiles, Tempust85 and 1 other like this
Lamented Posted September 6, 2014 Author Posted September 6, 2014 Meh, can't be sillier than Darth Vader was at first. I'm glad you think so, though.
Tempust85 Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 I really do hope someone takes up this request, would be great to see it. I would, but I'm quite busy. If someone can model & texture it, then I'll rig and compile it. Lamented likes this
Archangel35757 Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 @-- I would be willing to do it after I finish the Jan Ors project. Lamented and Tempust85 like this
Lamented Posted September 7, 2014 Author Posted September 7, 2014 That would be very awesome of you, @@Archangel35757. I won't be completely useless in this project either. I found someone on YouTube who might be able to voice dub Savage Opress's taunts.
Lamented Posted September 7, 2014 Author Posted September 7, 2014 Also, notice how on Mustafar and Nal Hutta Savage Opress's left prosthetic arm isn't wrapped up, but on Zanbar and Mandalore it is. Maybe both variants of the prosthetic arm could be added. (Just a thought. If you're only going to do one variant, however, I suggest doing the one wrapped up.)
Daedra Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 Also, notice how on Mustafar and Nal Hutta Savage Opress's left prosthetic arm isn't wrapped up, but on Zanbar and Mandalore it is. Maybe both variants of the prosthetic arm could be added. (Just a thought. If you're only going to do one variant, however, I suggest doing the one wrapped up.) I thought i'd add to the variant request to this, I want a ROBED version with the Prosthetic arm, and a shirtless version with robot arm, without it too, and with and without the broken horns. (This may sound like a silly request, but to those who love the character, will want all versions possible). Lamented likes this
Lamented Posted September 7, 2014 Author Posted September 7, 2014 I know exactly what you mean. It's just that this request is more likely to be taken without much overkill work. Savage with the broken horns and prosthetic arm and hooded/unhooded cowl is mainly what I'm after for the moment, considering it is how he looks in the final fight of his life against Sidious. I'll always be his biggest fan!
AshuraDX Posted September 7, 2014 Posted September 7, 2014 the only thing about @'s request that'd make more work would be the shirtless version the rest could easily be done by editing the .skin files Lamented likes this
Lamented Posted September 7, 2014 Author Posted September 7, 2014 This is true. I the modeler is up for such expansion, it's his choice, however. Again, I'm really only interested in his final look with a realistic take and his black robe and nothing else, but I wouldn't mind his appearance before either. I just like him better with dynamic features and he was more accomplished in the end of his time as a Sith, hence why he had a robe eventually.
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