The scorning came from requester pestering, passing off works as their own, having an entitled demeanor while requesting, impatience for modders, and comparing original work to a game studios work and requesting we just port the models as opposed to trying on our own. No one just woke up one day and decided to be jerks to the requesting community, there was just a complete disconnect between requesters and modders, and it drove a lot of modders away, hence asking some requesters to learn the ropes for themselves on the simpler stuff. The jkhub community is in its current state because of all parties involved, not just the modders. The hostility towards ports at least personally stems from a few problems... the awesome talent that we have here being asked to just stop trying and port the original models, even though 1. The original models are built for much higher end engines and will cause issues if ported, and 2. It takes the fun out of it and turns modders from hobbyists to employees. Ports hurt a modeler because when one modeler spends months or years developing a model, then you just port over Lucas arts model next to it with 50,000 more polygons, you tend to be quite cruel with comparison. Not taking into account the need to drastically drop resolution for engine stability and just judging someone's 6 months of work vs a team of trained professionals and digital scans and limitless engine capabilities 4 years of work like they're somehow comparable. Also, a lot of requests just kinda stink and I think personally that I have to have some sort of interest in the model to work on it. This is jkhub... for jedi knight games... skyrim, gta etc have their own sites, modders, community, and discords. So it seems u and I have opposing ideology on what makes jkhub great and where it could improve. Maybe the utopia of jkhub u envision is the opposite of what I'd like to see. Therein lies the conflict of websites in general. Can't please everyone. I'll agree with you that this site seems to have lost traffic, but I do believe we have conflicting opinions as to why or how to remedy it I'll further add to my point that it seems the elders are showing less and less productivity because of real life and how that goes when you no longer have 18 hours a day to work on jk stuff... and the newcomers we asked to learn as well as request didn't and now there's no next generation of modders. Just a theory though And also.... yeah... discord. 95% of my models now are for sale on various sites, but I still have all my old models and will work on them from time to time. I still have the passion for it, just also gotta pay bills raise kids spend time with the wife... I wish there was a younger person with the passion I have and time I lack. Triple post combo, r.i.p. bergen