I specifically remember a large competitive community of people (who I believe were basers) who came to us (JACoders) asking us for assistance in creating an "anticheat that doesn't modify the game" or something to that extent. When told that...yeah, you might have to modify the game, they promptly got mad at us for no real reason. I believe that the ESL also approached us, perhaps on a separate occasion. I'm not too sure, this all happened several years ago and the details are a bit hazy to me. Regardless, I remember that the upper management of the ESL were sketchy at best, and there was definitely something...off about them, but I can't remember anything tbh.