Game Of Thrones: Castel Black

[z3filus]

Game Of Thrones is so popular that I'm guessing there are a few fans among us who would be interested in a GOT duel map.
For those who don't know what GOT is about, in short: it's a medieval fantasy drama with very unpredictable plot twists. It's not for children.

 

Castel Black is one of many locations in the series and it is the headquarters of the Night's Watch. Im concentrating on the courtyard where they train.
A larger map featuring the whole area of Castel Black with interior and the top of the wall is not yet planned because I don't want to be too ambitious.
I work slow and there is a possibility that I might just give up at some point and release my work as a prefab, but atleast I'm going to give it a try!

I will use screenshots from the series and google images to get a better idea of how the area is built, then roughly make all the elements there,
buildings, stairways, the elevator etc.  and then... I will start to better shape it all and get it scaled right. Scaling is going to be hard because
the images I mentioned are not 3D, ofcourse, so I will have to compare the actors to the setting, and even guess certain measures.
 

 

 

 

Read more about the series here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones


 

[z3filus]

These textures are just helping me better imagine the final product, so don't be spooked by them I just wanted to show some progress.
Im finally starting to get a realistic view of the scales, first I made some parts way to big. I mean I have to save a staircase and check it ingame twice to get it right.
 

Its painful. But it's worth it. Like she said

I was thinking about adding more detail to the final textures, instead of using many brushes, since a duel map needs good FPS.

[Asgarath83]

Please continue!! i love maps in fantasy style.

[z3filus]

I am still working on this project @Asgarath83.  



 

[Tempust85]

Looking great.

 

How would you like to come map for DF2 Mod?

[z3filus]

EDIT

I though about using the Medieval Map Objects pack made by @Inyri.  To add more detail in the map, would you be ok with it Inyri?

I would reskin them to match the rest of the map, and if anyone is willing:  I need a grinding stone or atleast that would look nice in this map.
Im in no rush with this map, could try to make it on my own but im such a noob with 3dmax. 

 

Edited September 2, 2014 by zeƒilus

[Boothand]

 I need a grinding stone or atleast that would look nice in this map.]

 

I can give it a try I will stream it probably shortly after this post, in case someone's interested.

[z3filus]

Watching now. @Boothand nice work, maybe the stone could be more thicker? I don't know.

Do it as u like, this is fantastic.  Just dont be looking at those horse images....  it's disturbing...

[Boothand]

Today's progress:   

 

Will texture it tomorrow.

[Boothand]

How about this?

 

https://skfb.ly/BnMv

[AshuraDX]

@@Boothand

2 options :

a. sketchfab is acting up on me

b. the textures are blurry as fuck and quite low res O.o

 

if it's the latter get a neat high res wood texture and a sharper stone texture for the stone, it should have a really rough surface

try these for the wood  :

http://www.cgtextures.com/texview.php?id=36869&PHPSESSID=j2h23k0udd9atu526b480ctc13

http://www.cgtextures.com/texview.php?id=39500&PHPSESSID=j2h23k0udd9atu526b480ctc13

 

I'll keep looking for something fit for that stone

[Boothand]

(Sketchfab updated)

 

You're right, it becomes kind of low-res. Part of the reason is the UV map, but the biggest reason is probably some issues with Zbrush and weird looking artifacts, or what to call them.

 

I don't personally want to use any non-JKHub assets (preferrably only my own), but if anyone feels ambitious, they could re-texture the model as they like. But I've spent about as much time as I want to on this model, and will rather focus on approaching texturing a bit differently on future models.

 

Here's how the texture map looks:

 

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58757568/grindstone_final2.jpg

[AshuraDX]

@@Boothand send me the model and i'll retexture it if I find the time to do so

cgtextures offers free textures anyone may use so there'S no problem with that

[Boothand]

Nice  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58757568/grindstone_final.obj

 

I should see what I can do with Ddo and Ndo. It seems pretty good!

 

Yeah, it's not the policy, it's rather my obsession with in-sourcing everything. Also building skills and getting experience is important for me as an actual game-student. I could have used one of my own photo-planks but attempted to do it all by (boot)hand.

[AshuraDX]

Painting a realistic wood texture is hard, very hard stylised wood textures are kinda easy though

anyway here's what I could do to the Grindstone, I remade the UV's to get a more even texture resolution over the model

 

3D preview (link to sketchfab)

 

@zeƒilus if you want snow on this let me know and I'll make a snowy version

[z3filus]

Great model @Boothand, that would look awesome in this map.

That would be great @AshuraDX,  Castel Black, as you know, is a cold place.

[AshuraDX]

Allright !

[Guest KENNITHH]

Looks awesome AshuraDX, zefilus and boothand !

 

A tip zefilus, I think the Game of  Thrones game had Castle Black in it, it could be usefull to roam around in the map, seeing hows its done and the details,  maybe even be naughty and rip some things out of it and remake it

[Boothand]

Nice AshuraDX! Did you make those textures from scratch, or based on free textures? Also curious on your UV layout

 

Zefilus, is it gonna be the whole castle including the top of the walls (not *the wall*) and the gates etc?

[AshuraDX]

Normal mapping off :

Normal mapping on :

 

@@Boothand let me explain my process, I've linked images to illustrate the process :

 

After redoing the UVs, I took one of the wood textures I've linked here yesterday and a random stone texture I had on my hard drive and layed those out in Substance Designer, in Substance I tiled, scaled and rotated the textures until I achieved the look I was going for and then masked textures to the appropiate UV chunks and added a few nails. This map would later become my premade diffuse map for dDo

 

I then used "bitmap2material light"(the full app is like Crazy Bump, but on Steroids) inside of Substance to create a normal map & specular map from those textures which I later overlayed ontop of my baked normal map from 3ds max

I used the generated premade spec map and the combined normal map later in dDo

 

using the generated normal map I let Substance create a curvature map, then used a levels adjustments to isolate the (black) cavitys in the wood. I did this to create a neat overlay for my baked Ambient Occlusion map from max

After blurring the baked normal map and multiplieing my overlay on top I ended up with this AO map for dDo

 

Using the material masks I created earlier, and some Photoshop work I created this material map for dDo (Beige=Wood, brown=Stone, brown/redish-grey=iron)

 

by then I had everything I needed to get started in dDo. I won't explainwhat I did in dDo so here are the finished textures, notice that I scrapped the stone texture I used and replaced it with a texture generated by dDo

here's the end Product :

Diffuse Specular Normal Gloss

 

then I took those back into substance to add snow, using various tools and quite a bit of painting in Substance to get a decent snow mask, here is the snowy version :

Diffuse Specular Normal Gloss

 

Any comments/wishes @zeƒilus ? I can easily tweak the snow and everything you want to have tweaked

[Boothand]

Thanks for sharing It looks great.

 

The normal map on the snow looks a bit strange to me though. Thought that looked a bit better before the normal map actually. Maybe it's too strong.

[AshuraDX]

@@Boothand thanks to substance designer that's easily changeable just have to drag a slider around

[AshuraDX]

@@Boothand

better ? about 50% strength for the snow bump

[Boothand]

Yeah Should be fine as long as it looks like it's a thin layer overlaid, shouldn't be too noticeable bumps.

 

Maybe we should let zefilus steer the ship now though ^^ Let us know how it looks in your map!

[AshuraDX]

still have to export it as an ASE for him

 

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I could also create a few textures for you if you need any

I could porbably create a larger version of the wood texture used for the grindstone which you could then use in your map