Archangel35757 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 @@mrwonko and/or @@eezstreet and/or @@Xycaleth -- I've quickly taken a look at the cg_camera.h and cg_camera.cpp files in the cgame folder to investigate the camera ROFF noteTrack properties therein. It seems to me that this code and the ROFF callbacks somehow automatically appends the camera ROFF noteTracks to an existing ROFF file... rather than being a noteTrack that a user would create inside 3ds Max (or Blender) like an "effect" or "sound" notetrack. Am I seeing this correctly? So I'm asking if Camera ROFF notetracks are automatically handled by the game's code and whatever normal Icarus camera scripting one would do? Should my 3ds Max ROFF exporter be able to create and export camera notetracks as well??? Or would this conflict with what this game code is doing? Thanks! :unsure: Link to comment
eezstreet Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 How many times do I have to tell you... I don't know anything about ROFF files. D: Link to comment
Archangel35757 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 How many times do I have to tell you... I don't know anything about ROFF files. D:But you can read C++ code... no? Link to comment
Archangel35757 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 @@DT85 -- you asked for a ROFF tutorial so I dug this up from my old computer... Perhaps also check the web link on the Internet Wayback Machine. Posted by CodJax: http://www.map-review.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=23963&sid=7da7ebd0f94bd01d87d300d753cab7d7 I'm not sure where to post this, but I thought i'd share what i've learned with y'all: Roffs: For this tutorial, you will need the following programs/files: Radiant,3dsMAX 4 or 5 only (6+ does not work, may work in GMax),q3map2,BehaveED,Vmdexp.dle: (roff exporter plugin for 3dsmax)At the moment, this is going to be extremely simple and undetailed as I'm not in front of my development rig. I'll add some screens tonight.1) First thing - create the basic geometry of your map. I'll assume this is already done.2) Create the object you want to animate. It is vitally important that you model / import this object into exactly the starting position you want, otherwise, later on, you are going to have problems aligning the animation to your map. Also, DO NOT FORGET TO ADD AN ORIGIN BRUSH. This will be the pivot for the animation.3) Select the immediate area around the object to be animated, including that object and save it to a different file. DO NOT MOVE BRUSHES/MODELS FROM WHERE THEY ARE PASTED.4) Save and convert to ASE,5) Before Opening 3dsmax, make sure the Vmdexp.dle is in your /plugins directory.6) Taken from [soF2_Animating_Objects.doc], To get your animations to properly play in the game you will need to adjust a few settings for scaling purposes:i) Customize > PreferencesUnder the General tab, set your System Unit Scale to 1 Unit = 8.0 Inches.ii) Customize > Grid and SnapUnder the Home Grid tab, set your Grid Spacing and Major Lines every Nth to 8.0.For your animation to play at the proper game speed you will need to set your Frame Rate to 20 FPS (Frames Per Second).iii) Right click on the Play Animation button.Under Frame Rate, click on the Custom selection. In the FPS area enter 20, for 20 frames per second.7) Import your ASE. You will need to zoom into your object you want to animate. The ASE conversion process breaks every brush into individual faces, so will have to find the 6 faces that correspond to your origin brush. Weld these faces together and then group the entire object.8) Setting up the pivot/origin: Click on the Hierarchy tab. With your object selected click on the Affect Pivot Only button, under Move/Rotate/Scale. You will then be able to move the pivot to where you want - make sure it is in the direct centre of your origin brush/box.9) Create your animation - I just made a spline and converted into a trajectory path, but the beauty of 3dsmax is that you can do practically anything you want. It is important that you do not make any changes to the object in the very 1st frame of the animation as it will mess up where the object will eventually finish in-game.10) Once animated, ungroup your object, select your origin and go to file>export selected>whatever.rofYou now have a .rof file!Getting it into the game.1) Open radiant to your orginal map.2) Select the object you want animated and converted it to a func_static and add the key: script_targetname whateveryouwanttocallit3) Create a target_scriptrunner and add key: usescript path to your scriptfile4) For the purposes of testing, I add a trigger_always and link to the the scriptrunner. This will loop the animation and allow (for me) more effective debugging.5) Open behavEd, create a script like this:Affect (whateveryouwanttocallit)Play (Play_roff) (whatever.rof)Compile it and save it (rofftest.ibi for example),6) Compile the lot and then devmap it in JK and voila![references: Raven, Torchy and Lassev] Link to comment
eezstreet Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 But you can read C++ code... no?So I'm guessing that I can quickly glance at code and automatically understand how it works without a background in the actual content? I guess you can kinda see why that's a false pretense.I bet you can model in Blender and Milkshape too, since you know how to use a modelling program. Link to comment
mrwonko Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I can't really tell you anything without investigating the code in depth. Link to comment
Lancer Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I'll upload the last Bespin Range (beta) one of these days so that people will see you can actually make roffs, not only talk about them, Archangel. Assuming I still remember how to pack it up... Circa and Archangel35757 like this Link to comment
Archangel35757 Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 @@Xycaleth @@eezstreet and any other OpenJK coder... Is there any reason that we cannot bump up the number of allowed ROFs in a level??? It is artificially capped at 32 ( as defined in g_ROFF.h ) What would be a good number? 64, 128, 256... etc. Link to comment
eezstreet Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I don't see why you can't raise it. It's likely just an arbitrary cap designed to prevent too much overhead. Link to comment
Archangel35757 Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 Xycaleth has increased the max number of ROFFs to 128 per level. Tempust85 likes this Link to comment
Archangel35757 Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 Not a whole lot of options... but can anyone think of anything that I may have missed? ...it will always export a binary .ROF file (for each object)-- and will automatically handle export of selected objects or all scene objects that have the origin shader applied: Link to comment
Archangel35757 Posted November 27, 2013 Author Share Posted November 27, 2013 @@Lancer @@DT85 -- What about having an export option for a custom animation range start/end??? For when you might only want to export a portion of a much larger animation??? Only thing the user will need to ensure entity is not moving until his custom start frame... Tempust85 likes this Link to comment
Tempust85 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 That'd be a great idea, would save on having to use multiple max files. Link to comment
Archangel35757 Posted November 27, 2013 Author Share Posted November 27, 2013 Below is an updated dialog adding the option to export a specific animation range. The "Segment Range" section will be disabled unless the user checks the "Export Segment" box. For those folks that have experience with ROFs, can you think of any more export options? Link to comment
Archangel35757 Posted November 27, 2013 Author Share Posted November 27, 2013 @@Lancer and @@mrwonko -- a hypothetical question: When you are creating a complex script using multiple ROF files, either in a cinematic cutscene or background events going on in a map, where the brush objects that depend on ROFs may animate at different times-- would it be better if all ROFs in that level have the same starting/end animation frames where they would all start playing at same time (with some objects staying still until you reach their true anim start) ...OR would it be best if each object's ROF started animating immediately and the Icarus script controls the global start time in the map? Link to comment
mrwonko Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I'm not sure there's a right way to do that... Probably situational. But in general a common start point sounds simpler, even if it wastes some space since it saves frames with no movement. But given how small the format is that hardly matters. Link to comment
Archangel35757 Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 Update: Making progress... I have the code for the export dialog finished, as well as some class methods for the exporter. Still working on the heart of the code for the export process. I hope to have an Alpha version soon for testing. Link to comment
Archangel35757 Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 *I can help with the mapping*Update: Making good progress with the ROFF exporter... I've gotten all the class methods finished-- except for the two methods to write the binary and ASCII output files. I hope to have them complete in a couple of days... then we should be ready to beta test. We need to start working on a test map-- I want to create the ROFF's with Max5 as a reference proof case. Link to comment
Szico VII Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 What do you need in the test map? Link to comment
Archangel35757 Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 What do you need in the test map?nothing much really... a simple, flat, large terrain... to allow for a fighter fly-by (doesn't matter which kind)... Also make a multiple rocket launcher or surface-to-air missile launcher brush model... we'll use the ROFF's for the fighter's animated flightpath, as well as to animate launcher system tracking the aircraft and then have a missile launching out of its casing and intercepting the fighter. Maybe, use the Camera ROFF too for a "bullet-cam" view... I believe the Camera NoteTracks are appended automatically to an existing ROFF file by the game code... based on the camera parameters you script in Icarus... best I can tell. So it'd be good to verify that hypothesis. Or if you have something else you'd like to do I'm open to suggestions. Link to comment
Archangel35757 Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Update: Things are progressing slowly... I've got a bug somewhere in my "CollectNotes" method that is crashing 3ds Max when I do a "File > Reset" after exporting. The exporter does export the scene however... I've requested the help of an experienced 3ds Max plug-in developer to help me track down my bug. In the meantime I wrote the ASCII text file write function and generated the following output: When you export your scene... you save the file as your map name... as shown above. The exporter parses the filename generated by 3ds Max (which includes the path...) and generates a unique file name for each scene origin object following the format: mapName_objectName_origin.txt ( and .ROF). Below is the output for a test animation of "Box01" having 10 notes. I still need to write the binary file method and test things out thoroughly...C:\TEMP\ROFF\mapName_Box01_origin.txtVersion: ROFF 2#Frames: 61FrameRate: 20 fps#Notes: 10 1:(0.000000,0.000000,1.595922) 0.083730 0.109728 0.052481 (0 2) 2:(0.000000,0.000000,5.927709) 0.328448 0.428063 0.205155 (-1 0) 3:(0.000000,0.000000,12.311398) 0.725850 0.937639 0.450884 (-1 0) 4:(0.000000,0.000000,20.063017) 1.269073 1.619910 0.782571 (-1 0) 5:(0.000000,0.000000,28.498604) 1.952199 2.455464 1.193189 (-1 0) 6:(0.000000,0.000000,36.934193) 2.769789 3.424317 1.675796 (-1 0) 7:(0.000000,0.000000,44.685810) 3.716466 4.506192 2.223539 (-1 0) 8:(0.000000,0.000000,51.069500) 4.786533 5.680781 2.829622 (-1 0) 9:(0.000000,0.000000,55.401287) 5.973642 6.928005 3.487271 (-1 0)10:(0.000000,0.000000,56.997208) 7.270510 8.228267 4.189673 (2 2)11:(1.403554,2.746897,56.997208) 8.668680 9.562691 4.929905 (-1 0)12:(5.317449,10.202761,56.997208) 10.158334 10.913348 5.700877 (-1 0)13:(11.296528,21.190348,56.997208) 11.728156 12.263464 6.495268 (-1 0)14:(18.895639,34.532417,56.997208) 13.365262 13.597601 7.305506 (-1 0)15:(27.669630,49.051727,56.997208) 15.055175 14.901794 8.123753 (-1 0)16:(37.173344,63.571037,56.997208) 16.781874 16.163662 8.941940 (-1 0)17:(46.961628,76.913101,56.997208) 18.527889 17.372427 9.751831 (-1 0)18:(56.589333,87.900688,56.997208) 20.274467 18.518953 10.545122 (-1 0)19:(65.611298,95.356552,56.997208) 22.001791 19.595652 11.313553 (-1 0)20:(73.582375,98.103447,56.997208) 23.689184 20.596359 12.049044 (4 1)21:(80.877083,98.103447,56.512402) 25.315393 21.516188 12.743824 (-1 0)22:(88.166908,98.103447,55.092754) 26.858854 22.351297 13.390542 (-1 0)23:(95.452194,98.103447,52.790424) 28.297903 23.098656 13.982331 (-1 0)24:(102.733238,98.103447,49.657574) 29.611021 23.755760 14.512857 (-1 0)25:(110.010384,98.103447,45.746353) 30.776976 24.320370 14.976281 (-1 0)26:(117.283936,98.103447,41.108925) 31.774986 24.790205 15.367174 (-1 0)27:(124.554230,98.103447,35.797447) 32.584755 25.162668 15.680385 (-1 0)28:(131.821579,98.103447,29.864077) 33.186539 25.434551 15.910827 (-1 0)29:(139.086304,98.103447,23.360971) 33.561165 25.601742 16.053280 (-1 0)30:(146.348740,98.103447,16.340290) 33.690067 25.658907 16.102114 (5 1)31:(153.609192,98.103447,8.854192) 33.054409 23.639927 15.836958 (-1 0)32:(160.867996,98.103447,0.954832) 31.419922 18.148043 15.253332 (-1 0)33:(168.125458,98.103447,-7.305630) 29.183134 10.032459 14.707353 (-1 0)34:(175.381912,98.103447,-15.875036) 26.606319 0.159816 14.477570 (-1 0)35:(182.637680,98.103447,-24.701229) 23.799784 -10.583641 14.733691 (-1 0)36:(189.893082,98.103447,-33.732048) 20.787304 -21.300461 15.564920 (-1 0)37:(197.148438,98.103447,-42.915340) 17.606306 -31.094751 16.974669 (-1 0)38:(204.404068,98.103447,-52.198944) 14.456336 -39.091282 18.790323 (-1 0)39:(211.660294,98.103447,-61.530704) 11.887320 -44.460537 20.503891 (-1 0)40:(218.917450,98.103447,-70.858467) 10.820423 -46.422642 21.264214 (6 1)41:(226.823303,95.673225,-82.637314) 10.907402 -46.070793 20.999666 (-1 0)42:(235.736572,89.053558,-98.518288) 11.132770 -45.062237 20.262760 (-1 0)43:(245.223938,79.250961,-117.243164) 11.421252 -43.466728 19.156708 (-1 0)44:(254.852142,67.271935,-137.553680) 11.686475 -41.355213 17.792065 (-1 0)45:(264.187866,54.122986,-158.191605) 11.849180 -38.801922 16.269966 (-1 0)46:(272.797791,40.810623,-177.898697) 11.848075 -35.885052 14.672717 (-1 0)47:(280.248688,28.341358,-195.416718) 11.643830 -32.686157 13.061146 (-1 0)48:(286.107208,17.721695,-209.487396) 11.218525 -29.288797 11.476645 (-1 0)49:(289.940063,9.958145,-218.852524) 10.572837 -25.776768 9.945478 (-1 0)50:(291.313965,6.057198,-222.253845) 9.722751 -22.232319 8.483614 (7 1)51:(283.157166,4.563955,-216.030731) 8.696651 -18.734589 7.101078 (-1 0)52:(261.017303,3.335570,-199.139435) 7.533064 -15.358306 5.805439 (-1 0)53:(228.390121,2.346680,-174.246994) 6.278984 -12.172934 4.604373 (-1 0)54:(188.771408,1.571925,-144.020462) 4.988487 -9.242225 3.507367 (-1 0)55:(145.656952,0.985943,-111.126900) 3.721400 -6.624307 2.526675 (-1 0)56:(102.542488,0.563374,-78.233330) 2.541725 -4.372353 1.677689 (-1 0)57:(62.923801,0.278856,-48.006817) 1.515695 -2.535821 0.978802 (-1 0)58:(30.296646,0.107028,-23.114395) 0.709325 -1.162295 0.450918 (-1 0)59:(8.156790,0.022530,-6.223107) 0.185416 -0.299875 0.116743 (-1 0)60:(0.000000,-0.000000,0.000000) 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 (8 2)Note 0: effecteffects/explosion1.efx 0+0+0 0-0-1Note 1: soundsound ( CHAN_BODY, "sound/efx/explosion1start.mp3")Note 2: effect effects/explosion2.efx 0+0+0 0-0-1Note 3: soundsound ( CHAN_BODY, "sound/efx/explosion1loop.mp3")Note 4: effecteffects/explosion3.efx 0+0+0 0-0-1Note 5: effecteffects/explosion4.efx 0+0+0 0-0-1Note 6: effecteffects/explosion5.efx 0+0+0 0-0-1Note 7: effecteffects/explosion6.efx 0+0+0 0-0-1Note 8: effecteffects/explosion7.efx 0+0+0 0-0-1Note 9: soundsound ( CHAN_BODY, "sound/efx/explosion1end.mp3")I hope to have things ready to beta test inside the game engine within a few days. 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Archangel35757 Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Update: I solved my crash bug on my own... now I just need to find the proper Quat to Euler conversion. Link to comment
Archangel35757 Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 Update: Euler angles now fixed. Now all that remains is to write the binary output method and we'll be ready to beta test in the game engine. QUESTION: Should I remove the "_origin" from the filename??? Tempust85 likes this Link to comment
Archangel35757 Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 The binary file write method is finished... but I'm not sure the notes are getting written out properly. I need to verify the notes are being written properly using a binary/hex editor. Should have this sorted out tomorrow... then we can beta test with GtkRadiant and game engine. Stay tuned... Boothand likes this Link to comment
Archangel35757 Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Update: The binary write method is now fixed and exporting the notes properly (as best as I can tell)-- but no JA ROFs actually used notes; so we'll have to see how the game engine likes them). Technically, everything is done and the exporter plugin is now ready for beta testing... it outputs a binary .ROF file (used by engine via an Icarus Script) and optionally an ASCII .txt file (for human consumption only). The only remaining aesthetic item I have left to do is create a custom progress bar... to provide info on export process. So far I've only compiled a version that is compatible with Max 6, 7, or 8. I don't want to spend time compiling other versions until I know everything is working properly in-game.Any mappers and scripters ready to help test it? Interested parties can find downloads for 3ds Max 5, 6, 7, or 8 30-day Trials at modacity.net at this link: http://files.modacity.net/software/3dsmax/ Link to comment
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