Thanks. Ok so now I have (from Modview): LOD0 - 5,967 tris 5,170 verts LOD1 - 4,154 tris 3,457 verts LOD2 - 2,748 tris 2,536 verts All I need to do now is work on those extras. Now I *think* I remember seeing something a few years ago that allowed you explode your model into all segments activating all caps. Is this real or did I dream it up lol?