SecretApprentice Posted January 3, 2015 Posted January 3, 2015 Hello, I recently upgraded from Radeon to a brand new Asus Geforce 970, and I have had trouble configuring the graphics on JKA. The graphics of the game itself barely changed from when nothing was adjusted, to when everything was turned on at the control panel. All of my drivers are 100% updated, and I have no idea why this is happening. I am completely new to Nvidia and it's features so I may be doing something wrong, it could probably be something more than right clicking and using the Nvidia control panel to change certain aspects.
SecretApprentice Posted January 5, 2015 Author Posted January 5, 2015 I swear nobody ever knows how to solve the problems I post on here
IrocJeff Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 What are you expecting that 970 card to do on a 10+ year old game? Do you have the game setup for widescreen?
Futuza Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Hello, I recently upgraded from Radeon to a brand new Asus Geforce 970, and I have had trouble configuring the graphics on JKA. The graphics of the game itself barely changed from when nothing was adjusted, to when everything was turned on at the control panel. All of my drivers are 100% updated, and I have no idea why this is happening. I am completely new to Nvidia and it's features so I may be doing something wrong, it could probably be something more than right clicking and using the Nvidia control panel to change certain aspects. Getting a new graphics card won't magically make an old game new. If you are wanting to make the game look prettier there's a few things you can do: -Run JKA in the highest resolution your monitor will support (if you're using openjk you can use r_mode -2 as an argument to automatically use your current desktop resolution, don't forget r_fullscreen 1 if you want full screen too).-Get a mod that has a higher resolution texture pack eg: http://jkhub.org/files/file/1302-the-jedi-academy-texture-overhaul-hoth/-Change game settings to use higher settings (eg: 32 bit textures, trilinear filtering, dynamic glow on, etc...)-Also since you are using a relatively modern graphics card your game will probably suffer from vsync issues if you don't enable it (use r_swapInterval 1 if you don't use in game menu). Finally don't expect it to look like Frostbite/CryEngine quality, getting a new graphics card does not do that and if that's what you've been led to believe I'm afraid whoever you bought the graphics card from was lying to you.
Didz Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 You can also use the Nvidia Control Panel to force on anti-aliasing for the game, and this smooths out the edges of all objects, instead of the jagged edges you get by default. Usually a setting of 4x is sufficient and you'll see very noticable improvement, but you can go higher if you want Futuza likes this
SecretApprentice Posted January 6, 2015 Author Posted January 6, 2015 Can't seem to get anything to make it work. I never expected it to look amazing, I just wanted it to look similar to the way it did with my old graphics card. I got this new Geforce 970 to run games like Far Cry 4, and actually like you said Crysis 3. I just find it depressing that it looks like it is running on no graphics at all. Is there a possibility it could be certain things I turn on in the control panel that effect it? I turn it all on 16x anti-aliasing and stuff like that, but I put the smoothness on 0% since it says it makes the textures blurrier each time you increase it. I am a graphics freak if I must say so and seeing this takes away the beauty that I see in this game.
Didz Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Screenshots would help with diagnosing the problem! Make sure you use the /screenshot_tga command or take a print screen and save to a PNG file, so we know the problem isn't lossy artifacts in the image format itself (like JPEG does).
SecretApprentice Posted January 7, 2015 Author Posted January 7, 2015 Screenshots would help with diagnosing the problem! Make sure you use the /screenshot_tga command or take a print screen and save to a PNG file, so we know the problem isn't lossy artifacts in the image format itself (like JPEG does). Here's how my graphics used to look And.. Here is how it looks now.. It actually looks a lot worse in-game then it does in this picture. I hope you can find a solution from what I have given you
Futuza Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 It looks the exact same... Yeah...I can't tell the difference. Maybe try a video @@SecretApprentice ?
Raz0r Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 Are you using OpenJK? It has more sane defaults for modern hardware, which improves visual quality. If so, try /cvar_restart; vid_restart If it goes to windowed mode: /r_fullscreen 1; r_mode -2
Xycaleth Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 Only difference I can see if that the first screenshot has antialiasing which you should be able to enable from your graphics driver's control panel.
ensiform Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 If you are having FPS troubles you should possibly consider using an older graphics driver.
Xycaleth Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 If you are having FPS troubles you should possibly consider using an older graphics driver.Wat
Didz Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 Yeah the difference here appears to be solely anti-aliasing. The first one looks like it has around 16x AA, but the second one looks like it has 2x or 4x AA. Try upping it all the way up in the Nvidia Control Panel.
Futuza Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 Using the older drivers might work, but that's a bit ridiculous since his other games will likely suffer. Worth a try I suppose since it isn't all that hard to rollback a driver if it doesn't do anything. Yeah the difference here appears to be solely anti-aliasing. The first one looks like it has around 16x AA, but the second one looks like it has 2x or 4x AA. Try upping it all the way up in the Nvidia Control Panel.I believe he said he already tried that... I turn it all on 16x anti-aliasing and stuff like that, but I put the smoothness on 0% since it says it makes the textures blurrier each time you increase it
Didz Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 Well I can't tell if the problem is:Player model not being litPlayer model seeming to have less level of polygonal detailTexture quality poorerEdge aliasingSomething elseWe need to know exactly what looks worse in-game. I can't tell if the player model being black is the problem he's describing, or just a problem with the lighting on that map. It might help if the screenshots were from a map with better textures for comparison (maybe BlueIce Nightfall), and taken from the same view point.
SecretApprentice Posted January 7, 2015 Author Posted January 7, 2015 Here is how a certain map looks with movement while taking a picture(not entirely sure how to take a video of it). I think dropbox makes the image look more better than it actually is. I'm not sure if I should download old drivers, and I also don't know which one would be the right one to download. Using the older drivers might work, but that's a bit ridiculous since his other games will likely suffer. Worth a try I suppose since it isn't all that hard to rollback a driver if it doesn't do anything. I believe he said he already tried that... Are you using OpenJK? It has more sane defaults for modern hardware, which improves visual quality.If so, try /cvar_restart; vid_restartIf it goes to windowed mode: /r_fullscreen 1; r_mode -2 I never actually used Openjk hope it's not too complicated. I hope what you say is true about how well the visuals look. I would show a video if I knew how to record in-game, which I have never done before.
Futuza Posted January 7, 2015 Posted January 7, 2015 @@SecretApprentice You can get the latest openjk windows build here: http://builds.openjk.org/openjk-2015-01-05-afa1c691-windows.zip Then just unpack it (the zip) to Jedi Academy's GameData folder. Bandicam is a good resource for recording in game video.
Circa Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 It looks great to me? I still don't understand. I think dropbox makes the image look more better than it actually is. This is backwards. If anything, it would make it look worse, but nope, Dropbox doesn't compress or change anything.
SecretApprentice Posted January 8, 2015 Author Posted January 8, 2015 It looks great to me? I still don't understand. This is backwards. If anything, it would make it look worse, but nope, Dropbox doesn't compress or change anything.Man I wish you could be alongside me seeing what it actually looks like. All the images and textures blur out in jagged stretch lines, and it makes for a unpleasant gameplay. I may be using OpenJk wrong, since I don't really see much of a difference I hope you guys feel me, and can relate to a huge graphics downgrade. I may have OCD, but for some purpose of getting paranoid over drastic change.
Xycaleth Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 I've circled stuff in the screenshot which look kind of bad. Are the red and/or purple circles what you mean @@SecretApprentice?
SecretApprentice Posted January 8, 2015 Author Posted January 8, 2015 Yeah that's some of the stuff that looks pretty bad texture wise. The jagged lines however show through a lot of my maps, but this particular map shows the problem the most.
Xycaleth Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 Can you check that you have anisotropic filtering set to max (16)? Should be able to find it in the game menu ("more video" I think?) Can you post a screenshot of where you set the antialiasing settings in your graphics card's control panel?
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