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I've already proposed that here a while ago, and no-one's taken interest, sadly: http://jkhub.org/topic/4355-new-model-request-ahsoka-tano/

Thanks @@Asgarath83. I'm pretty sure it's the same one, though. To my knowledge no-one's made another one since the prime days of JK2... (and that's a long-long time...)

That looks like the same one...

Am I the only one here who thinks (young) Togruta look way too cool? When they're young, both the horns and the headtails are shorter. They get larger the older (and wiser) they get.

Yep, the Neomarz JK2 Shaak Ti model, right? http://jkhub.org/files/file/572-shaak-ti-vm/ As far as I know that's the only one in existence… :/

It's all fine and dandy that no-one is interested in making Ahsoka, but I'm surprised that in all these years apart from Mars Marshall (Neomarz), no-one has made a Togruta model for JK. Considering that Shaak Ti is in the prequel movies and in The Force Unleashed, and that many Star Wars games feature characters from the Togruta species, I'm surprised no-one else has attempted to make another Togruta model for JK so far. Any thoughts?

Agreed. Would love to see this being made!

Thanks everyone. Great thoughts. I've personally never found the original story of the prequel movies that interesting, and I'm used to the stylised world of animation, which explains why I wasn't bothered by these factors and why I like the series so much. But I can definitely see how these features of the series have had a negative effect on many Star Wars fans. It's fascinating to know this, and it helps to understand your viewpoint better. Keep 'em coming. Are there any other reasons you dislike the series? Who else has felt that the series were annoying or that they didn't live up to their expectations, and why? Feel free to critically bash Ahsoka, too, if you feel her character deserves it -- just be specific about what you dislike about her, and/or her actions, with concrete examples if you can. Thanks.

Anyone get the feeling this topic is getting rather peculiar? "Curious and curiouser…"

Hahahaha! It sure was!

Soo… you're saying the asexual creatures will talk and flirt with themselves much more often, hence the vocal distinction? I guess that makes sense… in a strange kind of way… ... Kyle: "Hey babe, you look gorgeous. Let's make out." Jan: "What?" o.O Kyle starts hugging himself. Jan: "Ookay…"

So... they sound different because…? I love this find, @. These are those rare personality gems you come across in countless lines of monotone code.

Also, can someone explain to me the difference between "NEUTRAL" and "ASEXUAL" -- because I really can't see how that makes a difference in terms of vocal production…

Okay, now I'm going to do something very unusual, that some of you might find very strange coming from me, but I assure you my intentions are completely sincere. I will also ask any fellow Clone Wars series fans not to intervene, defend, or express their opinions. This is thread is purely for negative criticism about the series. I myself am a big series fan, but I am very much interested in hearing the thoughts of the people who dislike, or even hate, the series and to find out why they feel that way about it. When I say criticism, however, I mean reasonable and informative arguments about people's experiences and thoughts on the series. I don't wish to see any "It sucks" comments without an informative statement as to why it would "suck". Such comments are of no use here, and I will see to it that they are removed by moderators. With all that said, why is it that you personally dislike or hate the series, and what do you dislike/hate so much about it? Speak now, or forever hold your silence.

"SHEMALE"???? o.O

I actually personally consider Lucas a worthwhile and in some ways very accomplished artist who has taken a route rarely visited by other artists that I feel has impacted much of his art in a negative way. I was merely trying to explore what these negative effects meant through a critical discussion, and try to come to a conclusion as to how an artist should view their own work.

Only 40 years, haha (from concept to realisation)! Anyone here still remember the Virtual Boy?

Thanks Eez.

That's the Oculus Rift?! o.O I imagined something… more elegant... It depends on how comfortably it sits on your head. Half a kilo can be a lot if the straps and design of the device are uncomfortable. The bigger problem will be with extended exposure to its screen, I think. It seems to me this is much like enclosing yourself in a little dark box with an OLED screen set right in front of your eyes. Without natural light it won't be healthy for the eyes. Although, I do see how this is sort of a necessity for virtual reality...

It's not about liking or not liking, George Lucas, @@Ping, or labelling him. There are wonderful things Lucas created, and there are not so wonderful things, too. I'm only critically discussing the artist's relationship to his work, and Lucas' recent actions fit the bill in terms of what constitutes, in my honest opinion, as a lack of respect for one's own art, and as such his actions present a good case study. It's just an observation and analysis, not an attack on the individual. Please don't misunderstand my intentions. I'm just as much a fan of Lucas' work as you are, and I do have immense admiration towards his earlier work. Lucas is not the only person/artist who has made such drastic revisions to their work in the world of film. There are others as well, but he's one of the few who has ventured so far with his changes. Critical analysis requires a non-biased standpoint. We need to look at the good as well as the bad, and we can't afford to idolise or protect the subject for sentimental reasons. Otherwise it won't be a critical discussion. This thread seems to have turned with everyone's input from an analysis and discussion of the artwork into a critical discussion about the artist's relationship to his work -- which is the artistic subject of the artwork, so I see no problem in discussing this.

It's great to see that they are trying to create something like this, but two things about this particular experiment: The Good: 1. It looks like they've finally mastered the viewpoint/look-around in virtual reality. 2. Slowing down the real-time action is a nice touch, and helps the player follow what's happening with a good illusion of realism. The Bad: 1. That headset and grip device look like they're right out of the 80s. How much does that thing weigh? I wouldn't want to carry it on my head for more than a minute. 2. The response time on that swing action looks awfully slow to me. It reminds me of the awful level of motion detail in the MotionPlus of the Nintendo Wii. If it's not spot on, it just won't feel natural. The Ugly: 1. I got to see it, and now you have to hear my critical analysis of it… 2. Move along... move along...

Very true, @@redsaurus! A series that most certainly has been all but forgotten. Do you know if Lucas was involved with the production/licensing of that series as well? I presume he was… Wikipedia says that he was even involved with the writing of these series. In that case we have an example of a direct replacement of art content, even to the exact name. Need we say more? That's the same as if Da Vinci had decided to repaint the Mona Lisa five years after its public release and called the new work of art the same name: Mona Lisa. That would have caused an outrage among fans of the original work, and jeopardised his name as a respectful artist -- because of no appreciation and/or confidence shown towards his own art. Would he have had the right to do so? Yes, since he created the original. Would that have been seen a respectful course of action with everyone involved? I highly doubt it. Would that have been true to himself, and considerate/appreciative towards his initial inspiration? Most certainly not. Does the Mona Lisa as an artwork have faults? You bet! That's what makes it so interesting; it has faults and merits alike.

Darn… I'm going to give up on this one, then. If it won't work in base JKA, then I'm not really interested in developing this mod any further. My hope was that there was at least some way to store the player's current model in memory, and recall it when needed, but it seems the only place that can be done in the base game is through an SP Icarus script. The mod itself is a cloaking device, that lets the player cloak their character (make them hard-to-see/near-invisible) at the push of a button, and loads an appropriate stylistic visual representation based on the gender/type of the player's model (human male, human female, alien), then lets them toggle the cloaking device off with the same button, and reverts their model back to the default look. It was intended to add extra functionality and challenge in MP duels. I guess instead of making it a general function mod for all in-game models, I will have to make use of this as an additional skin/option for particular new models, with an additional script included that has this toggle function hard-scripted and bound to a key. Well, if anyone has a model/character who likes to use a special cloaking device to their advantage, and they are interested in incorporating my work in their player model release, let me know. Thanks everyone for your help.

Umm… it was George's imagination that the TCW team built upon, and it was in consultation with him that they created the series. I don't think George is/was unimaginative. I just think that he chose to sacrifice his own art for the sake of immediate popularity. I don't think he put the same heart into the prequels as he did with the original trilogy. But it could be that the original trilogy was created with the active help of a whole lot of other people -- big projects like movies tend to be that way -- and that his involvement and own ideas in the original saga was less than what we perceive. Perhaps he really did intend to create an sci-fi action extravaganza from the beginning, and not the gripping personal and emotional journey of an unlikely group of heroes that the original trilogy came to be. Either way, I wouldn't put George down so. It's not right. The artist should be respected for their imagination and their work, but the artist should respect their muse as well.