cg_fov 120 for jedi academy

[Nipaa]

Greetings!

I know that cg_fov 120 is available value for quake 3. In jka maximum available value for cg_fov is 97. Tell me please, can you raise this limit in OpenJK to 120?

cg_fov 97 is not enough for majority of players

[Tray]

Yeah, honestly it's the reason of using such things as JK3 Cvar Hack for raising limit for this cvar by lot of base players. If in OpenJK there will be more values available to set, this problem would be almost totally solved (in ESL CvarHack is forbidden).

[ensiform]

The limit was raised.  But you can't play on servers that don't use fs_game OpenJK unless the server you play on uses a mod that you have which also raises it.

 

Can't help you if the server is pure or running "base" as the cvar exists within the client mod portion, not in the engine part (OpenJK)

 

Does the CVar Hack even work for cg_fov?  The fov restriction isn't forced like some of the other limited cvars.

[Tray]

The limit was raised.  But you can't play on servers that don't use fs_game OpenJK unless the server you play on uses a mod that you have which also raises it.

 

Can't help you if the server is pure or running "base" as the cvar exists within the client mod portion, not in the engine part (OpenJK)

 

Does the CVar Hack even work for cg_fov?  The fov restriction isn't forced like some of the other limited cvars.

Yes, Cvarhack unlocks limit for cg_fov and also thirdpersonrange commands. And with it you can raise fov on any servers even tho it's running on base. Maybe it's probably on OpenJK also make it available not only within OpenJK based servers?

[ensiform]

Well, like I said the actual cvar itself exists in the "cgame" dll portion of MOD code so we can't fix it for you on base servers.  A hack is a hack and we won't be implementing some workaround in the engine to let you use cg_fov to work on base servers.

[Raz0r]

Also, OpenJK and JA++ have cg_fovAspectAdjust so it looks correct on non-4:3 aspect ratios.

[ensiform]

Also, OpenJK and JA++ have cg_fovAspectAdjust so it looks correct on non-4:3 aspect ratios.

 

Only playing on servers with the correct cgame client mod fs_game OpenJK or japlus (with JA++ installed instead of JA+) of course.  Not the OpenJK engine.

[afi]

I think in third person 97 fov is fine, but it obviously depends on the aspect ratio. In first person it's kinda bad when compared to Quake. I definitely couldn't play Quake like that.

I think it would be a good idea to allow greater values, but obviously not as a "hack" for base servers.

[ensiform]

The maximum value for cg_fov and cg_fovViewModel in OpenJK mod is 130.  Plus with the aspect correct option it self adjusts behind the scene to proper aspect fov at that value.

[afi]

Yea I should have read your first post. That's interesting because afaik in the ESL it's allowed to play on OpenJK servers and people got banned in the past for increasing the fov limit by using a cvar unlocker. I wonder if they are aware and/or got a rule for that.

[ensiform]

Well you can't unlock it with just using openjk.x86.exe, you have to be running the mod.  Which can't be done without a pure hack or an engine alteration that still bypasses the pure.

[Yberion]

Yea I should have read your first post. That's interesting because afaik in the ESL it's allowed to play on OpenJK servers and people got banned in the past for increasing the fov limit by using a cvar unlocker. I wonder if they are aware and/or got a rule for that.

 

ESL Rules - 3.1.2. Modifications

 

 

Anyway, when people are playing on a server that use OpenJK, there is just jampgame that is upload and not all the dlls and you can't use the cgame provided by OpenJK cause of the sv_pure 1. Also ESL Rules - 4.3.3. 3rd Party Software/Patches

[ensiform]

What they don't know won't hurt them.

[Smoo]

I prefer a higher cg_thirdpersonrange, higher cg_fov seems weird lol

[ensiform]

That's cheat protected on purpose because you can see around corners more iirc. (Hence why 3rd person is cheat protected entirely in Q3 online play)

[Eternal]

Well you can't unlock it with just using openjk.x86.exe, you have to be running the mod.  Which can't be done without a pure hack or an engine alteration that still bypasses the pure.

Like this: https://github.com/eternalcodes/OpenJK/commit/493d31ea08af1fdc7c35cc12c51a7207ccf57755

[ensiform]

Right, pure hacks which won't be incorporated to the main tree.  Hax hax hax.