GTK texture question

[CaptainChar]

plain and simple, will GTK and JA see PNG image format in game? just so I know if I need to convert some textures I got or not to JPG

[mrwonko]

JKA supports PNG, but I believe it loads more slowly, or so I've heard. I never benchmarked it myself. I suggest you convert to JPG which would also reduce the filesize and can be done in a matter of seconds using batch conversion.

[Tempust85]

Use PNG when you have transparency, otherwise use JPG.

[CaptainCrazy]

Damn that goes to show its age lol.

[CaptainChar]

I usually have PNG for things with alpha or them as TGA, but A batch convert sounds good, I just didn't wanna dive into this then find out, "oh you gotta use this format, trollololo"

[Futuza]

Keep in mind you always lose quality when going with a JPG file, but with an engine this old I doubt that means much.

[Tempust85]

Tbh games these days have compression formats equal in quality to JPG. You get compression artifacts very similar to JPG in UDK if you compress your textures.

[CaptainChar]

the biggest texture I used to date is 18mb on a single texture, but mind you its an entire planet

[Szico VII]

tga compresses better in pk3 files I believe than png. But both are valid formats

[CaptainChar]

I used TGA for some things that needed alpha layer, I couldn't get the PNG alpha layers to work before

[eezstreet]

PNG is compressed, TGA is uncompressed. Putting a PNG in a PK3 is therefore redundant as the PK3 is already compressed. Both formats offer transparency, TGA is harder to manipulate and deal with in Photoshop.

 

Sidenote: Why do people shorten GTK Radiant to simply GTK? That's like shortening Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy to simply "Star Wars". It literally doesn't make any sense when people shorten it down like that.

 

(fyi: GTK is a UI environment, has nothing to do with the tool itself, other than that the tool uses GTK for its UI. It's called Radiant.)

[Tempust85]

How is TGA harder to manipulate in photoshop? I find it rather easy working with the alpha channel.

[eezstreet]

How is TGA harder to manipulate in photoshop? I find it rather easy working with the alpha channel.

It's harder as opposed to just using the transparency settings that Photoshop usually uses.

[Szico VII]

Theyre both pretty easy to manipulate really. Sometimes I actually prefer TGA as you can manipulate the transparency entirely separately from the main image very easily.

As for calling it GTK - if anyone on a jedi knight editing board manages to mistake GTK (radiant) for something else I can only say.... dayum.

[eezstreet]

As for calling it GTK - if anyone on a jedi knight editing board manages to mistake GTK (radiant) for something else I can only say.... dayum.

Errr...dayum what? Not all of us associate "GTK" with "GTK Radiant", you know. Especially Linux users or anyone who's worked with any kind of GUI programming at all. Granted, "GTK Texture Question" kinda implies that it's involving GTK Radiant, but if someone says something like "GTK problem" or "GTK issues" or "I can't get GTK to work", that kinda implies that they can't get GTK to work on their computer, not GTK Radiant (hell, Radiant requires that you install GTK anyway to begin with, so go figure)

 

gtk is shit anyway

[CaptainChar]

last time I used Linux was Ubuntu, I wasn't aware GTK accro applied to Linux, I will make a note for future reference

[mrwonko]

GTK is short for GIMP Tool Kit, which originated from GIMP, unsurprisingly.

[eezstreet]

GTK is short for GIMP Tool Kit, which originated from GIMP, unsurprisingly.

Interesting, I wasn't aware of the link between it and GIMP.