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Jedi Academy - Outcast v1.00a

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This mod changes the Jedi Outcast campaign so that it will run under Jedi Academy. In particular, it fixes almost all the shortcoming of other similar mods:

 

Players do not skate on the water on yavin swamps and yavin canyon.

AI generally navigates correctly

Cutscenes work

Objectives correctly function

 

 

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= INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS =

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Within the ZIP file you downloaded, you should see three files:

jaooutcast(version number).pk3 - the core of this mod, containing most of the assets needed to make this work

outcaststrings(version number).pk3 - this contains the briefing files and various other strings related to the mod

jao_map_ents.zip - the ENT files for use with recompiling the outcast maps. Most of you will want to ignore this, but I've included the files if you wish to look at how something was accomplished, or perhaps if you want to further edit the maps yourself. I've also included the uncompiled script files in the jaooutcast PK3.

 

Installing is a pretty easy process:

 

1. Move outcaststrings.pk3 and jaooutcast.pk to your Jedi Academy base directory.

 

2. Rename your Jedi Outcast asset files in order to load before Academy's asset files, and copy to your Jedi Academy base directory. Personally, I renamed the JO files from asset#.pk3 to aJK2_#.pk3. As long as the game loads them first, you're good.

 

3. Once you have loaded the mod, select New Game from the main menu, and choose between playing the Jedi Academy campaign, the Jedi Outcast campaign, and the Jedi Outcast demo level.

 

 

The mod has only been tested on Jedi Academy v1.01 and using Jedi Outcast v1.04 source files, but the chances are if you're reading this then you've already them. Right?

 

 

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======= WHAT IS THIS? =======

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Well, I assume you aren't seriously asking this question, but hey, nothing wrong with telling you something you already know.

 

This mod fixes Jedi Outcast's campaign to run under Jedi Academy, and also eliminate various file conflicts between the two games. The intent is to remain true to the gameplay of Outcast as best as the engine allows, while providing the player with the improvements from Jedi Academy, and a few tweaks to the balancing in the interest of fun.

 

Players who have downloaded other attempts at converting maps from Outcast to Academy may have noticed several shortcomings. This mod has fixed those; AI will generally navigate the map correctly, there is full support for objectives, and cutscenes will (mostly) work with a few minor changes where necessary. Oh and no ice skating on yavin swamps and yavin canyon!

 

 

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========== CHANGES ==========

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While I've tried to preserve much of the gameplay -- you won't find new enemy types from Academy in here -- there are a few gameplay changes from the original campaign:

 

* On ns_starpad, you're now required to destroy the turret attacking Lando. Something players were likely to do in practice, but weren't forced to.

 

* Various equipment items from JO have been removed from the maps since they are not functional in JA and/or cause crashes. Occasionally concussion rifles have been placed instead.

 

* Kyle gains Force Sight, Force Absorb, and Force Protect in line with his abilities in Jedi Academy.

 

* Kyle's force power gains are accelerated, partly for balance, but also so the player has more opportunity to use several abilities, unlike base JO where some were gained very late in the game. In particular:

** Saber Throw L3 is reached on doom_comm, 5 levels earlier

** L3 Speed/Push are reached on cairn_bay, 3 levels earlier

** L3 Grip is reached on cairn_dock1, 3 levels earlier

** L3 Lightning is reached on doom_comm, 3 levels earlier

** L3 Saber Defense is reached on cairn_assembly, 3 levels earlier

** Jump/Heal/Mind Trick/Speed/Saber Offensive are unchanged

** For the new force powers: L3 Sight is reached on cairn_bay, L3 protect on doom_detention, L3 absorb on doom_shields

 

* Additional objectives have been added on ns_starpad to make it clearer to players where they should be going next.

 

* There are also a few minor bugfixes from Outcast.

 

* The door puzzle at the end of doom_detention has been removed, since the changes to pathing resulted in Jan getting stuck, and the player being unable to progress.

 

* Due to engine limitations, the fight with Galak on doom_shields is impossible to replicate from Outcast. I've tried to salvage it as best I can, but it can't really compare to the original.

 

* The gravity is no longer disabled on doom_shields after defeating Galak, due to engine limitations.

 

* Obviously, the player also has access to the new features and moves introduced in Jedi Academy. On the downside, so do the saber-wielding enemies you face!

 

* On artus_detention, the warden will now walk significantly faster.

 

 

An explanation of the force power changes:

 

Kyle's ability to deflect blaster bolts is significantly reduced from Jedi Outcast, so L3 Push/Pull/Saber Defense are gained earlier to compensate.

 

Saber Throw is now gained at the same time as L3 Saber Offense, mostly so you have a chance to use the damn thing. 9 levels in Jedi Academy vs. 1 (plus a boss-only level) in base Outcast!

 

Grip and Lightning progression provides the player with more offensive capabilities, but also to allow the player to use them more. The world didn't end because you could max them both out very quickly in Academy.

 

Absorb/Protect give the player more choices in how they play and reflects Kyle's abilities in JA. Sight can also make the JO levels much easier to navigate, particularly yavin_swamp.

 

 

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======= KNOWN ISSUES ========

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Given the *insane* number of workarounds and hack fixes needed to get Jedi Outcast to play nicely with Jedi Academy, it shouldn't be surprising that there are a few issues. I've done my best to eliminate them where possible, but there are always going to be a few. The game has been tested all the way through successfully, though only on normal difficulty, and for JA v1.01.

 

* On yavin_trial, the bryar pistol is hidden away instead of Kyle's lightsaber. Unlike JO, JA cannot handle starting without a lightsaber and then picking it up, causing the game to crash. The other option of starting with the saber and teleporting it away resulted in unacceptable performance issues, so this was chosen as a compromise instead. Just pretend it's a lightsaber. Or pretend Kyle *really* wants his bryar pistol back instead of the blaster pistol from JA.

 

* AI may occasionally have trouble navigating the levels due to the changes to the navigation system between JO and JA. Trying to fix this as best possible probably took up more time than anything else in this mod...

 

* The Lady Luck's gun at the end of ns_starpad does do damage, but will not appear to fire any projectiles.

 

* The ship's gun on doom_detention does not cause any damage, and the player will be unable to blow up the tie fighters using them.

 

* In a few cutscenes where animations from JO are used, the characters in question will not be able to hold items in their hands, due to a handbolt issue when using the JO skeleton in JA. Footstep noises for such characters will also fail to work.

 

* Due to the workaround used to get Jedi Outcast objectives to load in the menu, if you use the map command to jump straight from a JO SP level to a level that isn't t2_rancor, you will still see the JO objectives. Quiting back to the main menu first will solve this. Similarly, if you (for some reason) decided to jump straight from the JO campaign to the opening level of Academy, it would play the wrong title crawl. As a result, I highly recommended you use the menu to launch the correct campaign.

 

* Viewers may pick up on some slight changes to the cutscenes in terms of NPC positioning. Again, this is mostly a consequence of the changed navigation system between JO and JA.

 

* If you cheat to give yourself additional saber styles, they will not work on some earlier levels. Players should also be aware that because saber styles are no longer locked to your saber offense level as per JO, Kyle's saber styles are locked through his lightsaber. If you wish to use additional lightsaber styles, you will need to change your lightsaber model first. For reference, the saber models Kyle uses in the mod are "kyleplayer", "kyleplayermf", and "kyleplayermfs", which allow medium, fast, and strong styles respectively.

 

* At the end of doom_detention, Jan will not follow you all the way out of the detention area. This has no impact on your ability to trigger the final cutscene and complete the level.

 

* Kyle will use male Jaden's healing sound.

 

* One of the grates leading up to a section where you open the roof on ns_starpad cannot be seen from the underside, but can still be destroyed as normal.

 

 

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============ FAQ ============

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Where I presumptuously answer your non existent questions!

 

 

Why did anything need to be changed at all from Jedi Outcast?

 

Almost all the work in this mod revolved around fixing the many bugs introduced by the differences between the two engines. They're similiar enough to make this possible, but different enough such that a huge amount of things get broken. I also felt there were a few opportunities to improve things from Outcast's campaign, but almost all changes are for technical reasons.

 

 

What's changed from Jedi Outcast?

 

The gameplay additions are mostly minor with the biggest being the slightly accelerated force power gains, and introduction of a few new force powers for Kyle.

 

Cutscene positioning has changed slightly in some cases to accomodate the modified navigation system in Academy, but should mostly be true to the originals.

 

 

I'd like to contact you, send you hate mail, or profess my undying love for you. where can I do that?

 

You can do so at iamasanguinehipster AT gmail DOT com

 

 

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==== CONTACT AND CREDITS ====

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I can take no credit for the fantastic Outcast campaign; all credit must go to the folks at Raven Software and Lucasarts. However, converting the levels from Jedi Outcast to Jedi Academy involved a tremendous amount of work to eliminate the huge amount of bugs. If I'd have known just how much work it would involve, I probably wouldn't have done this! Anyway, if you enjoy this, I'd love to hear your feedback.

 

If you want to email me, either to send your thoughts, or if you'd like to know about a ridiculous and horrible hack fix I came up with (the objectives fix is rather ridiculous), you can do so at:

 

iamasanguinehipster AT gmail DOT com

 

 

Thanks to the fine people at jkhub.org for feedback and assistance.

 

This mod requires you to supply your own asset files from Jedi Outcast. If you don't own a copy of Outcast, you you can purchase it through Steam at:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/6030/

 

 

THIS ELEMENT IS NOT MADE, DISTRIBUTED, OR SUPPORTED BY LUCASARTS, A DIVISION OF LUCASFILM ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY LTD. ELEMENT TM & © LUCASARTS, A DIVISION OF LUCASFILM ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY LTD.

 

In slightly less legal speak: I don't own the copyright to Star Wars or Jedi Academy/Outcast. I didn't create the original assets the mod is based on. I'm not getting anything for doing this. This is a free mod intended to allow a great game to work with Jedi Academy, with no copyright infringement intended.

 

Thanks for downloading, and I hope you enjoy.

THIS FILE IS NOT MADE, DISTRIBUTED, OR SUPPORTED BY ACTIVISION, RAVEN SOFTWARE, OR LUCASARTS ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY LLC. ELEMENTS™ & © LUCASARTS ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY, LLC AND/OR ITS LICENSORS.


What's New in Version v1.00a

Released

  • v1.00 (17 Match 2014)
  • - Initial public release
  • v1.00a (22 March 2014)
  • - Additional cleanup of a few leftover files
  • - Slightly corrected Outcast objective marker colours
  • - Fixed a filename conflict between Outcast and Academy with one of Luke's pieces of dialogue

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Must say i´m enjoying this mod a lot and for now i have only found 1 bug, in the level yavin_canyon once you get inside the atst the saber gets stuck on the yellow style, had to use the cheat kyleplayermfs to get it working again just that, love the mod.

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This is an awesome mod. I use a different kyle npc but it doesnt appear in cutscenes. I was wondering if you could make it so that modded kyle models appear in cutscenes? thx

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This is an awesome mod. I use a different kyle npc but it doesnt appear in cutscenes. I was wondering if you could make it so that modded kyle models appear in cutscenes? thx

Um i dont know if he could the cutscenes kyle is a different model man that is set with the jk2 skeleton to work in cutscenes.

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Are the light amplification goggles not part of the mod?  They are absolutely necessary to navigate some parts of the game

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So, any way to give kyle tavion and desann's saber style in addition to medium, fast, and strong?  the "addsaberstyle" command doesn't work, so can you only use the kylemfs saber?

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This is an awesome mod. I use a different kyle npc but it doesnt appear in cutscenes. I was wondering if you could make it so that modded kyle models appear in cutscenes? thx

Afraid not, Kyle uses the JK2 skeleton in most cutscenes, though you could replace this NPC's model with a JK2 skin.

 

Hello, have you thought about resuming work on this mod by editing the Source Code,

i bet it would even be a lot better.

Editing the source code is not something I wanted to do with this mod. The idea is that it's something that works with the base games, though unfortunately this does have some limits.

 

Are the light amplification goggles not part of the mod?  They are absolutely necessary to navigate some parts of the game

They're not as they're not in Jedi Academy to my knowledge. They are not necessary as the saber or gunfire can be used as a substitute, but it's not ideal.

 

So, any way to give kyle tavion and desann's saber style in addition to medium, fast, and strong?  the "addsaberstyle" command doesn't work, so can you only use the kylemfs saber?

You can use any saber you want, though it will reset upon starting a new level since the correct saber is scripted at the level start. If you use a standard saber model you should be able to use these saber styles. The saber types added in the mod are for the purpose of restricting saber styles since Academy does things different to Outcast.

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They're not as they're not in Jedi Academy to my knowledge. They are not necessary as the saber or gunfire can be used as a substitute, but it's not ideal.

 

All items from outcast are in academy they are in the item.dat file in assets1 in the base so they are usable.

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Not sure if I followed the directions wrong, but when i open kejim_post through console the cutscene doesnt play properly and i'm missing map textures. I added the pk3s to base folder and renamed so they load first.

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Awesome, although not having inventory items is annoying. Love it, now I can have piles of bodies, ragdolls, and other fun things :D

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Hi iamasanguinehipster

 

I'm trying this mod with a spanish JO base pk3 files, and all voices are in spanish except Kyle's voice, which is in english. Do you know why this happens and any way to fix it? Thanks.

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Hi iamasanguinehipster

 

I'm trying this mod with a spanish JO base pk3 files, and all voices are in spanish except Kyle's voice, which is in english. Do you know why this happens and any way to fix it? Thanks.

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Hi iamasanguinehipster

 

I'm trying this mod with a spanish JO base pk3 files, and all voices are in spanish except Kyle's voice, which is in english. Do you know why this happens and any way to fix it? Thanks.

 

Howdy,

 

Kyle's sound files had to be renamed to fix conflicts between JO and JA. The scripts in the port of JO call the renamed files, and if you look at the mod PK3 you can see the renamed files in there.

 

To fix this, you would need to take your JO spanish files and rename them to the same ones used in the mod.

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Just to point out a bug: In the map Artus Detention at the start of the level after the tram cutscene Kyle freezes. Not even the Noclip, nor Control cheats fixes this. I can't control him in any way. Does anybody have this same problem and fix?

 

EDIT: Seems Kyle gets stuck/freezes after activating the tram at the end of the previous level, artus mine. Possibly a scripting error?

 

EDIT#2: It seems the OS is making this problem. Win 10 messes up the game (at least for me). This happens with patch 1.01, but it doesn't seem to be affected when using a mod, such as OpenJK or JA++.

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Hi there,

I know this mod may be dead by now, but I'm having some issues with map textures. Everything is greyed out and has white lines going through them (signifying lost textures of course). 

Is there a way to fix it?

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On 2/6/2021 at 5:12 PM, BelarusianIggy said:

Hi there,

I know this mod may be dead by now, but I'm having some issues with map textures. Everything is greyed out and has white lines going through them (signifying lost textures of course). 

Is there a way to fix it?

Hi, this would be caused by file issues. Either the files are not loading in the correct order, or there's another mod interfering with things. Outcast's files need to be overwritten by Academy's and so must load first - see installation notes. The patched files provided in the download need to load last since they fix various shader files and textures.

If you're running other mods, I'd try disabling those

Hope that helps.

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