MasterThiefGarrett Posted October 21, 2023 Posted October 21, 2023 Hello, I am new to modding and brand new to coding. I was trying to make a mod for Jedi Outcast singleplayer that changes blaster projectiles to be a lot faster, but no luck. I managed to change the numbers with MS Visual Studio (the latest version) and make a dll file, I then made a pk3 with 7z and put my dll inside it. I have that in a separate folder inside GameData. After launching openjo, I am able to choose my mod from the list. However, when I start a new game, there is no change at all to the weapons. What am i missing? Dear god I hope someone sees this, I know it's an old game but there are no mods online that do this, and being able to create my own would mean the world.
Lancelot Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 On 10/21/2023 at 5:04 PM, MasterThiefGarrett said: Hello, I am new to modding and brand new to coding. I was trying to make a mod for Jedi Outcast singleplayer that changes blaster projectiles to be a lot faster, but no luck. I managed to change the numbers with MS Visual Studio (the latest version) and make a dll file, I then made a pk3 with 7z and put my dll inside it. I have that in a separate folder inside GameData. After launching openjo, I am able to choose my mod from the list. However, when I start a new game, there is no change at all to the weapons. What am i missing? Dear god I hope someone sees this, I know it's an old game but there are no mods online that do this, and being able to create my own would mean the world. Maybe you should try not putting that mod in an extra folder. Put it in the standard base folder instead. Also, make sure to add the letter "Z" at least once to your PK3 (for example "zzz_Mod.pk3"], to make sure that your PK3 is one of the last files scanned by the game.
MasterThiefGarrett Posted October 23, 2023 Author Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Lancelot said: Maybe you should try not putting that mod in an extra folder. Put it in the standard base folder instead. Also, make sure to add the letter "Z" at least once to your PK3 (for example "zzz_Mod.pk3"], to make sure that your PK3 is one of the last files scanned by the game. Thank you so much for replying! I tried what you said, putting it in base, and renaming the file with three z's, but it still isn't working.
Lancelot Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, MasterThiefGarrett said: Thank you so much for replying! I tried what you said, putting it in base, and renaming the file with three z's, but it still isn't working. Okay, so the issue might be something else. I have absolutely no experience in coding, so I can't help you. But maybe @mrwonkocan.
mrwonko Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Having your own folder for your mod is not a bad idea, it helps you stay organized, and if you can select it in the menu, you're probably doing it right. As far as I remember, dlls don't necessarily need to be in a pk3 to work, but it definitely doesn't hurt. The most likely cause for a dll not being loaded is that it has the wrong name. Either because you renamed it yourself (then undo that), put it in the wrong folder, or because you're trying to use a 32 bit mod with a 64 bit engine or vice-versa, in which case you need to compile the correct version instead. Once the file has the right name, the ingame log should contain more information about whether it's being used, especially when you set developer 1.
MasterThiefGarrett Posted October 24, 2023 Author Posted October 24, 2023 19 hours ago, mrwonko said: Having your own folder for your mod is not a bad idea, it helps you stay organized, and if you can select it in the menu, you're probably doing it right. As far as I remember, dlls don't necessarily need to be in a pk3 to work, but it definitely doesn't hurt. The most likely cause for a dll not being loaded is that it has the wrong name. Either because you renamed it yourself (then undo that), put it in the wrong folder, or because you're trying to use a 32 bit mod with a 64 bit engine or vice-versa, in which case you need to compile the correct version instead. Once the file has the right name, the ingame log should contain more information about whether it's being used, especially when you set developer 1. I extracted the source code again and started fresh, but no luck. I had the platform to x32, but when I change it to x64, it fails to build. I have it set to "Release", is that the right one? When you say "renamed it" do you mean the actual name of the file itself? Mine is called "jk2gamex86.dll". Also, all my dll files say x86, does that mean I should set my platform to x86? I'm sorry if these are dumb question, like I said I really don't know much of anything about this stuff. Thank you for the reply!
mrwonko Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 "Extracted" makes it sound like you downloaded a zip. Please learn to use Git instead, so that you can keep track of your changes better, and undo them if necessary. Yes, I was talking about the name of jk2gamex86.dll. That sounds like the correct one, don't change it. x86 means 32 bit. To use a 32 bit/x86 jk2game dll, you need a matching version of OpenJO, I think the executable should be called something like openjosp.x86.exe (the x86 being the important bit), is that what you're using? "Release" is okay, "Release With Debug Symbols" is better if you get something wrong and need to debug. You probably should not use "Debug", as it enables a lot of extra error checks, which tend to fail and interrupt your game with error messages about unrelated things. Did you check the ingame logs with Developer 1 like I suggested?
MasterThiefGarrett Posted October 26, 2023 Author Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) On 10/25/2023 at 7:30 AM, mrwonko said: "Extracted" makes it sound like you downloaded a zip. Please learn to use Git instead, so that you can keep track of your changes better, and undo them if necessary. Yes, I was talking about the name of jk2gamex86.dll. That sounds like the correct one, don't change it. x86 means 32 bit. To use a 32 bit/x86 jk2game dll, you need a matching version of OpenJO, I think the executable should be called something like openjosp.x86.exe (the x86 being the important bit), is that what you're using? "Release" is okay, "Release With Debug Symbols" is better if you get something wrong and need to debug. You probably should not use "Debug", as it enables a lot of extra error checks, which tend to fail and interrupt your game with error messages about unrelated things. Did you check the ingame logs with Developer 1 like I suggested? Alright, Downloaded Git and the Github program, so everything is kept track of. My OpenJO is openjosp.x86.exe, so that's fine since im building in win32. I tried Developer 1, and then loaded the mod, and I was greeted with a whole page of errors. 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find menu/video/tc_engl.jpg Can't find menu/video/tc_engl.png CIN_PlayCinematic( video/jk0101_sw.roq ) Can't find music/cinematic_1.wav S_LoadSound: Unpacking MP3 file "music/cinematic_1.mp3" to wav. trFMV::play(), playing video/jk0101_sw.roq clientCommand: Kyle : 1 : userinfo "\snaps\20\sex\male\name\Kyle\handicap\50" In-game Cinematic Stopped trFMV::stop(), closing video/jk0101_sw.roq finished cinematic S_StartBackgroundTrack: Found dynamic music tracks serverCommand: 1 : cs 53 "models/weapons2/briar_pistol/briar_pistol_w.glm" CL_PlayCinematic_f S_StartBackgroundTrack: Found dynamic music tracks CIN_PlayCinematic( video/jk0101.roq ) trFMV::play(), playing video/jk0101.roq In-game Cinematic Stopped trFMV::stop(), closing video/jk0101.roq finished cinematic S_StartBackgroundTrack: Found dynamic music tracks serverCommand: 2 : cts ]condump usage: condump <filename> ]condump mod_error Dumped console text to mod_error.txt." Edited November 4, 2023 by MasterThiefGarrett Replaced screenshots with condump file
MasterThiefGarrett Posted October 29, 2023 Author Posted October 29, 2023 Is there any way I can fix the problem? Sorry, this mod means a lot to me, thanks!
MasterThiefGarrett Posted November 4, 2023 Author Posted November 4, 2023 On 10/25/2023 at 7:30 AM, mrwonko said: "Extracted" makes it sound like you downloaded a zip. Please learn to use Git instead, so that you can keep track of your changes better, and undo them if necessary. Yes, I was talking about the name of jk2gamex86.dll. That sounds like the correct one, don't change it. x86 means 32 bit. To use a 32 bit/x86 jk2game dll, you need a matching version of OpenJO, I think the executable should be called something like openjosp.x86.exe (the x86 being the important bit), is that what you're using? "Release" is okay, "Release With Debug Symbols" is better if you get something wrong and need to debug. You probably should not use "Debug", as it enables a lot of extra error checks, which tend to fail and interrupt your game with error messages about unrelated things. Did you check the ingame logs with Developer 1 like I suggested? Someone on the JKCommunity discord was saying I can "turn off debug build, or use the log file method" to get better information from my condump file, how do I do that?
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